Need to choose between XPS 15 9560 and Inspiron 7567 (with 4k IPS screen).

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  1. notfunny

    notfunny Notebook Enthusiast

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    I need to decide between these two models.

    I am talking about XPS 15 9560 with 1tb ssd and 32gb ram, i7 7700hq, nvidia 1050 and 4k infinity edge display.
    The Inspiron configuration I considering is 16 gb ram, 512 ssd, i7 7700hq nvidia 1050ti gtx and 4k IPS display.

    I need to decide between these two models.

    I did not see a configuration for Inspiron with 32gb ram and 1tb - so I have been wondering, how easy is it to upgrade the ram and memory?

    Now I know that XPS is probably "better built, lighter, etc" but how is the build quality of the Inspiron? Is it strong enough?

    Network connectivity. It seems that the new XPS does not have an Ethernet adapter. I tend to work in environment with bad wireless access but I have access to fast Ethernet. Are there standard external Ethernet adapters available for XPS (how pricey do they tend to get)?

    Thunderbolt: Do I really need it?

    Thermal throttling. I have heard that XPS has throttling issues under heavy load. (But that is what I hear about every laptop I check... ). How often do they occur for tasks that are not editing, browsing etc? It just seems pointless to buy a laptop with 1050 card if it can not handle a game on medium settings...

    What about the Inspiron? Has anyone using the the 7567 model has experienced any form of themral throttling (CPU/GPU)? My tasks can be computation intensive - scientific computing, basic training of deep learning models (small examples - small models due to memory limits) and graphics programming. I can play a game (not highest settings) occasionally. Are there any thermal throttling issues with inspiron as well? (Please do not offer to repast etc, I do not have experience with that, and I can use warranty just for opening the laptop myself).

    Battery: Does XPS drop performance when unplugged? How bad is it?

    Linux support - How hard is to install linux on either machine?

    SSD performance: Are they on par?

    Thanks.
     
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  2. don_svetlio

    don_svetlio Notebook Virtuoso

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    You're comparing a Mercedes to a Trabant, friend.

    XPS 15 is better in pretty much every possible way. Battery life is better (XPS has a 97Wh vs 74Wh on the 7567), stock SSD is much better, Linux should work the same on both.

    As for thermal throttling, the XPS 15 needs a bit of extra VRM cooling - that's all that needs to be sorted for heavy continuous load. That's done by adding a few thermal pads on top of the VRMs - easy and simple. You don't even need to unscrew anything inside.

    XPS series also come with superior customer support including Dell's NBD service whereas the Inspiron is Collect & Return.
     
  3. notfunny

    notfunny Notebook Enthusiast

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    The VRM cooling thing - I still need to open the chassis - right?
    It can result in losing the warranty, unfortunately.
    As for easy part... I am not an hardware person. The last time I did anything non-trivial with hardware (except replacing a light bulb) was like 10 years ago in high school. Is it really as "easy and simple" as you describe? Have you done it yourself?
    What is the possibility of messing something (which the warranty will not cover afterwards?). Can it be done by a person without any experience?

    Could you elaborate on the SSD part?

    And about "better in every possible way" - 1050ti is faster than 1050 by 30% or something like that, isn't it? (And let's not forget the price issue :) ).

    And what about the Ethernat adapter?

    - Thanks.
     
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    don_svetlio Notebook Virtuoso

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    XPS 15's wireless card is pretty good - and you can easily run ethernet from the USB 3.0 ports via adapter

    Unless the 7567 is offering Samsung NVMe drives, the XPS 15 is certainly going to be better. From what I've seen, the inspiron series come with mediocre TLC-based SATA 3 SSDs, not NVMe drives with MLC flash storage.

    1050 Ti is faster, yes but both are horrible at 4K - even a 1070 has problems at 4K with modern demanding games. And the 4K screen in the Inspiron is nowhere near the quality of the 4K screen in the XPS

    VRM mod is simple - open, put 3-4 thermal pads on top of the VRMs, close.

    Opening up the back cover does NOT void warranty IF there are no stickers on the screws - generally, Dell allow upgrading memory and drives so it should be fine. I mean, unless you start drilling holes in the motherboard, there's very little to worry about in terms of messing up. Though you can just contact Team LHZ (@iunlock @Mobius 1 @DeeX ) and they should be able to help you out with that.
     
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    kojack Notebook Deity

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    I would not call the 7000 series a trebant. by any means...more like a Mercedes versus a mazda.....
     
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    Mobius 1 thwink

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    you forgot @zergslayer69 (stan)
     
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    don_svetlio Notebook Virtuoso

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    The 1080p TN panel is pure garbage - It's a Trabant. Take it from someone in Eastern Europe. VX15 and 7567 are the lowest end of gaming laptops.
    Sorry, I am learning the members as I go along :D
     
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    In this case I think both models the OP is deciding between have 4K displays.


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    Speak for yourself. I have used it and its fine.
     
  10. don_svetlio

    don_svetlio Notebook Virtuoso

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    So have I and it's not - it's the exact same screen as the 2014 Y50 - that screen was garbage at the time and it's even worse now.


    Doesn't change a lot - XPS 15's 4K screen is brighter, more colour accurate and has a touch option. (from what I remember, Inspiron didn't have a touch option at all)
     
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