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NBR Vista Tips and Tweaks Guide

Discussion in 'Microsoft Windows XP and Vista' started by Les, Sep 7, 2007.

  1. Harper2.0

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    right click, and run as administrator, then defrag and apply the options.
     
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    How much RAM does disabling Indexing save? I really like being able to search for files almost instant, so I don't want to disable unless it makes a big enough(noticeable) improvement.
     
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    The defrag processes ended and I restarted my laptop to see...noticeable improvement but I may go back to having the indexing service enabled.
     
  4. Les

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    Tweaks are everyones own preference.

    I have never been able to find any negligible search difference with Search on or off. There is, however, more background activity with it enabled which slows system performance in the long run.
     
  5. Harper2.0

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    i read somewhere, that vista has it's own boot defrag thing, but it only comes on when the cpu/hard drive is idle. Which i'm pretty sure not many people leave their computers on long enough for the defrag to finish. =D and i never knew TuneXP worked with vista.
     
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    =(((( boot times inreased? it now takes about 100 sec to go from desktop to desktop on restart. 45-50 sec on cold boot. :confused:
     
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    As you are the only who has experienced this, Im going to bet you did something different. My guess would be that you never opened task manager and alowed it to defrag after it looked like it was complete.

    Actually the way you describe is odd because 45 sec is a great start time for Vista. As for your hot reboot, boot it a few times and see what happens...someone stated something similar above then it fixed itself after a cold boot, then hot reset.

    And as for the post above that.... it is fully compatible with 32/64 bit. I have received several pms/responses of and average of 35-40 second decrease in boot times. Sev are posted here.
     
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    I'm not sure how much RAM is being used by the indexing service, but keep in mind that the indexing service is an idle process, and its behavior can be adjusted on the power management where you can set it to index with higher priority (Performance, or something like that), or lower priority (Power saver).
    Furthermore, the tedious process only occurs once, which is when it's building the database (you can leave it to index overnight when you're not using the computer). Once the indexing database is built, it will not degrade the performance *that* much. Unless you keep changing a large amount of your indexed files, there will be no noticable performance decrease. At least not in mine.
    Therefore, if you do a lot of search, I'd keep the indexing service if I were you.
     
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    the boot time actually got worse after i booted it a couple of times. i did follow the instructions, but something did happen, i had the same prob as this guy-

    so what i did was just wait for the two processes to go away and waited another 30 min before i restarted. i found it odd that tunexp never said it finished or anything, but nothing was going on. i didnt hear the hard drive moving, and both cores were'nt doing anything. im defragging my hard drive w/ vista atm to see if it changes anything. :rolleyes:
     
  10. Les

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    Read the whole post. This was darthsats final result:

    "Edit : Finished defragging. So all in all, these 2 tweaks lowered my power-on to fully loaded vista from 1min 7seconds down to 55seconds. Not bad."

    So you are not in the same boat.

    To clarify...

    1. "Failed to get Data to Start" occurs when the initial installation gave you the opportunity to select C drive and you never highlighted and selected. It doesnt matter in any case.

    2. When it finishes, the program defragments in the background. You have to open Task manager and wait until defrag.exe and NTFSDfrg.exe finish and dissappear.
    I know the system doesnt tell you this so it is confusing but, nevertheless, thats how it works.

    You are the only pers that has had this occur that I know of and not been able to figure it out. Sorry.
     
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    Also if it has been runing for a long time just let it keep running till the 2 items leave your task manager becuase sometimes it does take a while, my week old HP took a little over an hour to complete.
     
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    Just a few notes on TuneXP:

    1) The "failed to get data on start" is due to vista
    2) most of the tweaks are obsolete on it now, the ultrafast booting is still worthwhile
    3) Vista/Win XP SP2 have a boot tweak function that runs rarely...this program actually forces windows to execute that function.
    4) in windows XP, you actually can see the progress through command but you won't in vista.
    5) This really helps if you reinstall while keeping old stuff on your hard disk or doing the microsoft initial install then upgrade install.

    This program does not do a standard defrag...you'll need to run perfectdisk defrag or similar to maximize your booting.
     
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    hey is crap cleaner vista safe yet? i want to use it on my vista ultimate laptop but i don't want to screw up the registry by having something that vista needs removed because ccleaner didn't know it was a critical vista entry or something.

    also in the process of using the tunexp defrag function. i haven't used this in a couple of years, it helped xp alot back then.

    edit: the boot defrag worked, atleast 1 min to boot though after things appear to be fully booted the hard drive is still being accessed for a good 2-4 min or so. then again it has always done that. wish it wouldn't though.
     
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    I would never run any registry cleaner, I would hand delete the values of uninstalled programs if I had to. I would run a registry defragger. I'm attaching a shutdown script that I wrote with the stuff I have:crap cleaner, perfectdisk, ntregopt, and kaspersky anti-virus.

    @ Echo off
    cd c:\program files (x86)\ccleaner\
    ccleaner /auto
    Echo Running crap cleaner, please wait 45 secs.
    ping 1.1.1.1 -n 1 -w 45000 >NUL
    cls
    del /s /q c:\programdata\"kaspersky lab"\*.dmp
    del /s /q c:\users\"all users"\"kaspersky lab"\*.dmp
    del /s /q c:\windows\temp\*
    del /s /q c:\users\trebuin\appdata\local\microsoft\windows\wer\reportqueue\*
    del /s /q c:\users\trebuin\appdata\roaming\azureus\*.tmp
    echo Cleaning complete, defragging.
    cd C:\Program Files (x86)\Raxco\PerfectDisk\
    pdcmd /sp /w c
    pdcmd /sp /w d
    cd c:\Program Files (x86)\"NT Registry Optimizer"\
    NTREGOPT silent
    shutdown /s

    Put this in a batch file and edit it for your needs. This really only benefits you if you have a command line capable defragger.
     
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    RE: CCleaner...see my latest tweak!! And yes its Vista safe...
     
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    thanks for all this info, im going to try this.
     
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    you can force a quick defrag of the prefetched items (which will decrease startup times on cluttered drives) by using this command line - "defrag.exe 'systemdrive' -b". alternatively, task scheduler is set up automatically in Vista to do this.
     
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    ccleaner = best program ever made =D
     
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    Here's my contribution:

    Open Device Manager. Expand the Disk Drive tree by clicking the "+" sign. Right click on your hard drive and select Properties, which will open a new window. Click the Policies tab at the top. "Enable Write Caching on the Disk" will be checked by default. Also check "Enable Advanced Performance". Click OK. Close Device Manager.
     
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    Nice. With all of these tweaks I currently have my boot up time at 32-33 seconds running Vista Business.

    I have a problem though, whenever I boot up Vista, when it first gets to the desktop screen a window flashes. It flashes instantly in and out. I can't read or see anything on it. It's bugging me, does anyone know what this could possibly be?
     

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