My first experience with Windows 10! WOW!

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  1. Ultra Male

    Ultra Male Super Tweaker

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    So I have been seeing Windows 10 Tech Preview and watching the updates build by build but I never cared to try it as I knew it would buggy as heck at the early stages.

    Now with the near release of the final build to the public on the 29th of July, I thought it might be time to give it a try to see what it's all about!

    UTTER GARGBAGE!! WOW! I am simply shocked by how bad Micro$h4ft can destroy the Windows OS that we all love!!

    First of all, this is a Windows 8.1 with more added bloat an non-user friendly settings. I had to first google how to access the Windows updates! I had to go to user accounts then change settings in PC settings, then found it buried there!

    Secondly, during the initial setup, it didn't give me the option to customize certain things like Windows 8.1 does, particularly the ability to choose NOT to install drives automatically from Windows updates. Instead of installing my own drivers, I was hearing the sounds of the USB disconnecting / display flickering while it was silently install VGA drivers! Great Microsoft, you choose what drivers I want don't give me a choice to do anything!

    Next, big issue, SCALING. In Windows 7, I choose a 125% DPI scaling and i'm done, everything looks right.

    Windows 8.1, the default scaling level for me 1920x1080 display is 125% but the problem is, some things look sharp and clear while others look blurry so what I do is, select display settings, then choose make my display settings for all the displays (or something like that) then log off/on again and everything looks right and sharp @ 125 DPI scaling.

    Windows 10, that option is completely gone, instead, you only have the automatic choice of 125% scaling just like Windows 8.1 but there is no option to choose "change my display setting for all connected displays" for things to look right. So I tried the custom DPI scaling and chose 125% then log on / off, nothing, the scaling doesn't seem to change the size of anything, then I tried a custom 150% scaling, nope, everything is still the same size.


    Next comes the automatically pinned folders. I connected my external USB drives and linked every single folder to my quick access bar! why?!!? why?!!? PLEASE!! Who created this junk OS?!?!

    And to everyone who was happy they brought that start menu back, this is no start menu! this is a joke! heck even the metro start menu was better this is a pile of confusing garbage


    Then comes the notification center! what is this a blackberry hub or a mobile device??

    Snappiness wise, I feel a huge lag compared to Windows 7 in everything I do and this is without a proper antivirus installed, just the useless Windows Pretender!

    I was waiting for Windows 10 to be released on the 29th of July to buy a new PC but thank you Microsoft, now I see where this is going.

    The only reason I was willing to learn this OS was for DX12 but looking at how things are at the moment, I think this OS needs another year of updates till it becomes useable! I don't know how in the world are they gonna release this to the public on the 29th of July poor people who signed up for the automatic update will only destroy their PC after the update and notice things not working like media cards, FN keys, etc.

    Just thinking of this scaling issue, can you imagine the nightmare people with 4K display would encounter?!? LOL

    @Mr. Fox

    This is what I can recall so far as the number of dislikes I encountered were simply shocking that I lost count.

    Windows 7 is the new Windows XP, milk it till it's dead......
     
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    M$ is claiming to be out of the OS/UI business. Apparently their claim is to be switching over to being an internet service, where are the lessons from AOL. The again was it not this company that beat them down to a pulp?

    This again goes with the you have to have every update scenario. This goes too with the you have to have our drivers. Lastly it goes too with you will be locked out of your own system. So as mentioned much earlier in other threads the enthusiast/hobbyist is in for a rude awakening.

    As it stands today if you want to stick with a real OS for the future then Linux or Hackintosh are the options. The later though could follow the footsteps here so be wary. Now if buy 2020 you want some real software support for a platform you need to help build market share now. If the money is there developers will follow.

    This is the reason for allowing pirated copies to change over to Windows 10, market saturation. Do not think they are just doing this from the kindness of their hearts. As it is with Windows 8.x developers just never bought in. The market was not there. Funny thing is while this will increase market share it is from those that do not like to pay for software the numbers will largely come from.
     
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    Ultra Male Super Tweaker

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    Funny you mention this, just as I was reading your post I got a big popup saying Windows is now adding new features! Great! Give me no control, do everything in the background and surprise me! That's how I like using me pc......NOT :rolleyes:

    You know man, I was not trying the Tech preview all these months because I had high hopes that this will come and fix Windows 8.1 and the skipped Windows 9 that they allegedly skipped altogether because Windows 8 ate Windows 9 and because they wanted to keep a distance from the horrible OS called Windows 8 to make people think they are in for something totally new and better.......

    Unfortunately, this OS as it stands is worse than Windows 8, heck I'd take any time of the day over this garbage! Did anyone take a look at how the settings are now even more scattered between the Control Panel and the User Settings? We asked Microsoft to fix this and gave feedback, what do they do? instead of keeping everything centralized in the Control Panel they scatter stuff more now and they remove the option to properly select scaling for all displays so now my text either looks super tiny or super blurry, cannot choose the good ol DPI scaling for all displays..... sigh........

    BTW, this is a small example by what I mean with scaling, some parts are super sharp like normal, and other windows are blurry:

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    It's the same in Windows 8.1 but you can then change the scaling setting to match all scaling for all displays then everything looks sharp everywhere....... in Windows 10 that option is gone! so you're left with this junk
     
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    Give MS feedback.

    I don't know what to think about W10 just yet. Things are changing with each version coming out. Settings are slowly being migrated from the old Control panel, but it's not finished yet.

    One thing I hate is the inability to hide taskbar labels without being forced to use THE INCREDIBLY STUPID combine buttons. I hate it so much, just as much as some hate the W8 Start page. In the feedback there's a vote for "Never combine, hide lables!", but I dunno if enough people cares. Editing the registry doesn't work anymore here.
     
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    Give MS feedback, look where this has gotten us so far. It seems unless the feedback is advancing the agenda then it is largely being ignored. At least this is my take so far.
     
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    Is some fuzziness around some of the system text really a big deal? Maybe I'm too lenient but that would be filed under my 'Ah, that's a shame but never mind' category.

    The settings being scattered is annoying but it's probably worth waiting for the final release to see if it stays that way.
     
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    UI friendly is what is it fuzzy icons is sign of poor programming and not doing their testing before releasing it. So yes this tells you alot how much they didn't listen to testers and preview tester and technet testers. So this looks like it will be another flopp and the CEO will go and another will be chosen again.
     
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    umm...not sure what your talking about with the scaling thing, when i installed windows 10 it was scalled at 150% which looked horrible. A simple right mouse click on your desktop, then left click on display brings up the scaling page. It comes set on 150%, just have to slide the circled slider back down to 100%. Not sure if there is some other scaling issue your talkign about.



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    Some do not want 100% but 125%.
     
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    no this issue has been there since windows 8.1......

    Here is how I can explain it simply....

    Windows 7 - You set a 125% DPI scaling, everything looks perfect after logging off/ on. All windows, text, icons are sharp as if there was no scaling but that was the actual size.

    Windows 8.1 - It brought a new feature where you can have scaling for only your current screen and diff. scaling for other screens (let's say you had a TV or external monitor connected). That causes things to look funny, some windows / text are sharp and fine, while others like for example the services.msc, event viewer, gpedit.msc windows all look blurry as if they were running on a non native resolution.

    Solution, right click on the desktop, screen > screen resolution, then there is a blue text that is clickable (I think it says make this the default scaling for ALL my displays), after choosing that, everything looks perfect just like Windows 7, and in fact, a bit better than Windows 7


    Windows 10 - It gives the same default scaling like 8.1 which is a different scaling level for each display which in turn brings back the same bug, some windows look fine and others look blurry as if it wasn't the native resolution. The problem is, in Windows 10, there is no option like Windows 8.1 to choose a standard scaling size for all connected screens which is why I am facing this issue!

    I would've thought that with Windows 10 Micro$haft is going to make the DPI scaling even better but nope, may the lord be with those poor people who have 4K screens on a tiny laptops they would probably need to attach a magnifier to their screen or enjoy super blurry text / windows everywhere

    urghh,, I have an HD 1920x1080 screen, if I do 100% scaling, obviously everything would look right no doubt about that, but that's too tiny even though I have good eyes, it's just way too small for my liking, hence the 125% is the perfect size.

    I did, I really hope they do fix this because I want to jump onto Windows 10 just for DirectX 12 but all I'm asking for it to be useable
     
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