My 9550 mb upgrade to 9560

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  1. Narraz

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    So i've been following this forum for a few months after I bought a dead 9550, i7, 4k touchscreen with no hdd and 8gb ram.

    All the info I had was that it needed a new mb due to a fan related issue that could have been fixed. So I bought it and found that a amature attempted to fix it and damaged the original board beyond repair. I found some people suggesting that the 9560 MB has the same/ similar dimensions. After researching some I took a gamble and ordered a new mb i7 7700/ gtx 1050 and a 9560 heatsink. They arrived yesterday. 31/10/17

    The 9560 heatsink is needed due to different mounting points and design.

    Here's a photo comparing the old (on top) vs the new
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    Some of the mounting holes are different, most line up. All of the peripherals line up with the chassis fine.


    There is a locating pin on the top left for that needs to be ground/filed off.[​IMG]

    There are two or three mounting screws overall that are different. There is still plenty of support for the new board.

    Also the headphone jack and speaker board that attaches to the 9550 doesn't fit on the 9560 because there is a headphone jack built in. There is no alignment issues with any of the peripherals
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    The right fan doesn't fit properly at all. There is no way to mount it. In my case I had to modify the fan to fit as a temporary solution.

    Here you can see that it fails against the wifi card
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    And my awesome mounting solution

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    I cant get the 84w battery to work with the 9560 board, there is a warning that it wont charge in the post. Any info on this would be great


    I ran into some issues with the wifi card installing drivers. It's the DW 1830 card, no dell drivers will install, I had to use a usb wifi doodad and let windows download drivers for it. This got it working okay.


    Noticing the idel temps on HWmonitor is 45c+ and jumps easily up to mid 60c’s


    That's where im at anyway, typing on my phone, suggestions welcome

    *EDIT*
    I uploaded the photo's instead of the links
     
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    Thanks Narraz. There has been a lot of talk about this but no one has executed as far as I can see.

    Would you mind posting the pictures rather than the painful google links?
     
  3. Narraz

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    Yeah no problem, when I get home ill upload proper pictures. Ive taken several high res close ups

    I havent seen anyone else actually do this mb upgrade at all?
     
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    I've probably seen a half dozen people ask about it but because of the change in the heatsink, some screw placement and other unknowns, I believe you are the first to do this.

    Won't be the last now that you have the process documented. . .
     
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    You need the 97wh battery, you really should buy the correct chassis to save problems. Personally if it was an eBay purchase I would be returning it as it is not as described otherwise a palmrest and chassis shouldn't be that expensive.
     
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    Please be sure to make full disclosure when selling. It is a cool proof of concept.
     
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    Im already in the deep end with this, I have already had plenty of interest from buyers and its not even complete yet.
     
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    Could not agree more with this. Narraz, sounds like a really cool project you have on your hands but a custom built/modded laptop sounds like a sketchy thing to sell. Be careful, and you must disclose the mods made
    Its hard to see too much from your pictures to help but you'll need to get that fan mounted better. Don't have many options for you other than buying a 9560 right fan and gluing it to the palm rest (use an ABS glue I believe). A real nice fix would be 3D printing two posts with large, flat bottom surface to glue below the fan and then tap and screw the fan into, but this is probably overkill for your needs.[EDIT, this is a very dumb idea as I forgot about the keyboard being directly below]. The only 3D printing solution here would be an adapter that would screw to the palm rest under the mobo using its two screw holes to the left and right of the fan output. The adapter would then snake towards proximal end of fan with two post you could tap and screw. This is probably even more overkill.
    As for the battery, does it display this message only when plugged into AC adapter or all the time? Trying to eliminate the ac adapter as it has similar POST message
     
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  9. Narraz

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    While that does sounds like a great idea Mlev, the new 9560 mb has its own mount for the right fan, a 9560 fan will screw it properly and be properly supported.

    I haven't had the battery plugged in and the AC adapter at the same time, as I didnt want to fry something if the m/b assumes the battery is a new 97wh(or w/e the capacity is) and overcharge the 84wh. i'd think that the old battery will charge fine as its just a normal LI battery.
    I only saw the warning once, when I first installed it and ran it off the battery as a test. The LED's at the front were flashing orange and white. The warning was in red text. other then that, it looked like it would have booted and ran on the old battery.


    You guys need to remember that this isnt close to being finished, it was a proof of concept. The main thing is that its operating fine in this chassis without any major modification.
    To finish it I will need to:
    Make the 84wh battery work with the 9560/ replace the battery. ($100-150)
    Buy and install right fan ($20ish)
    Buy 9560 speaker board module to get headphone jack and speakers (maybe mic, not tested) ($?)

    total cost so far:
    laptop $900
    New mb $570
    new heatsink $50
    sold old mb and heatsink -$200
    selling old battery $50
    =$1270
    Not too bad

    I intend on disclosing the information if/when I sell it. Would be a nasty shock to a random buyer who looks up the service code and see's that its a 2016 chassis with new hardward haha
     
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    It will run off the old battery but iirc will not attempt to charge it. You will not damage the laptop that way.
     
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