MSI GT73VR 7RF Titan Pro-236 ???

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    fapiha66 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi folks,
    I decided to buy a gt73vr MSI after some research. Originally I was settled on pro-866 model with the follows specs:
    Processor : 7th Gen Intel Kaby Lake Core i7-7820HK (Unlocked) , 2.9~3.9GHz, 14nm, 8MB 45W
    Chipset: Mobile Intel® CM238 Express Chipset
    RAM: 16GB DDR4 2400MHz PC19200 SDRAM, 16G x1 SODIMM up to 64GB
    Display: 17.3" 1920x1080 TN @120Hz 3ms, 94% NTSC
    GPU: nVidia GTX 1080 Desktop GPU, 8GB GDDR5X, DX12
    Storage 256GB M.2 SSD (OS) + 1TB 7200rpm 2.5" 9.5mm Hard Drive SATA III 32MB (DATA)

    However, I came across the model pro-236 today, which seems to have the same spec (except Display), but is 500$ cheaper:
    Processor : 7th Gen Intel Kaby Lake Core i7-7820HK (Unlocked) , 2.9~3.9GHz, 14nm, 8MB 45W
    Chipset: Mobile Intel® CM238 Express Chipset
    RAM: 16GB DDR4 2400MHz PC19200 SDRAM, 16G x1 SODIMM up to 64GB
    Display: 17.3" 1920X1080 TN CMN1747 94% NTSC @120Hz 5ms, LED Anti-Glare, G-Sync
    GPU: nVidia GTX 1080 Desktop GPU, 8GB GDDR5X, DX12
    Storage 256GB M.2 SSD + 1TB 7200rpm 2.5" 9.5mm Hard Drive SATA III 32MB (DATA)

    I could have missed some details and would really appreciate if someone could point out the difference between those two models (and why the price difference?)

    Thanks!
     
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    CMN1747's actual model number is: CMN N173HHE-G32

    With that being said, that is the FHD 5ms/120hz GSYNC panel

    the first model you mentioned has the same screen and it's also 5ms, it cannot be 3ms. Perios. The only one that is 3ms is the screens on the GT75VR Titan Pro, even though they have the exact same screen, for some reason MSI advertises them as 3ms, maybe they tweaked something in them but the point is, those 2 laptops you mentioned have the same screen.

    So I'm not sure what's the difference really. Can you ask the reseller of that first model to send you the screen model?
     
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    Thank you Phoenix for your reply !!
    I just checked the same model "GT73VR pro-866" on another 2 reseller websites, both are listed as 5ms. So I think you are right, and the previous reseller I check probably make a mistake.

    Not sure if I am allowed to mention name of resellers here ? I could point to their website if that is ok.

    But in the end, the screen shouldn't make that much of a difference.
     
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    You can mention the name of the reseller that's fine.

    Why don't you just email them and ask them what's the difference? because as I told you, the only laptop that can have a 3ms screen is the GT75VR so ask them what the heck is the difference between the two since both of them even have the better CM238 chipset which gives you better performance and the Sabre High DAC Audio
     
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    Yep, I'll definitely check with them before purchasing.

    Here is the cheaper model " MSI GT73VR 7RF Titan Pro-236" I mentioned, which is from GenTech:
    https://www.gentechpc.com/MSI-GT73VR-TITAN-Pro-nVidia-Pascal-GTX-1080-p/msi-gt73vr-titan-pro-236.htm

    And here is the 3ms screen model "Pro-866", which is probably a mistake:
    https://www.gentechpc.com/product-p/msi-gt73vr-titan-pro-866.htm
     
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    Yup as you can see from the official MSI website:
    MSI GT73VR Titan Pro (says 5ms)
    MSI GT75VR Titan Pro (says 3ms)
     
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    I just got a reply from Ken GenTech, the Pro-866 has HM175 Chipset while Pro-236 has CM238 Chipset (with ESS Sabre feature)
    The Pro-236 is a special package launched by MSI last week, for a lower price. Which seems a very nice deal.
     
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    I'd only get the one with the CM238 Chipset.
     
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    Agreed.
    Also, what thermal repaste are you using ? I saw several options including ICDimond, Thermal Grizzly and CoolLaboratory.
    I personally only had experience with CoolLaboratory, applied to my old Thinkpad W520, which did a great job.
     
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    Liquid Ultra on the CPU and GELID Extreme Thermal Compound or IC Diamond on the GPU.

    See this post which compares what temps I was getting with IC Diamond on the CPU vs when I switched to Liquid Ultra.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...eview-by-phoenix.801314/page-11#post-10517550

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...eview-by-phoenix.801314/page-14#post-10541023

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...eview-by-phoenix.801314/page-12#post-10517559

    PS: A lot of guys swear by Conductonaut now but I don't have personal experience with it.
     
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