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[MSI GT683/MS-16F2] Any GFX upgrade ?

Discussion in 'MSI' started by pau1ow, Oct 12, 2011.

  1. pau1ow

    pau1ow Notebook Deity

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    Guys,

    In addition of changing my i5 to an i7-2820QM, I was thinking perhaps of replacing my beast GTX460M.

    My question is what options do I have ? 570/485/580M or can I even go for the AMD mobile (6970/6990M)? Is it really worthy at the end (performance/price compared to my super 460M) ?

    I currently have a 150W power supply so I would need a bigger one obviously.

    The last thing in my mind is where could I find/buy this kind of GPUs ? I was looking on eBay but couldn't find any seller...

    Thanks for your help!
     
  2. long2905

    long2905 Notebook Virtuoso

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    i think you can get to a 560M or 570M without much hassle (if you can find one). The rest none of us have tried yet but other than a larger power supply needed, the heatsink seems to fit nicely. But you cant know for sure until you try. From GTX 460M to 570M or better is quite a nice boost.
     
  3. Meaker

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    Will need the right heatsink for the 570m.
     
  4. pau1ow

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    I wont get that much additional performance with the 570M I think and it is really expensive so If I go for a new one, I will buy either a 6970M+ or GTX485+

    Do you think an AMD GPU will fit in ? I know some AW users with GTX460m have upgraded to 6970M, I assume as it is MXM 3.0 it should work but would like to know if someone has already done that with any MSI laptop (with NVIDIA GPU initially)
     
  5. G.F.Y.

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    though not exactly what you guys want to know, i've successfully swapped out a 5870m to a 460m, then to a 6970m in my GX660. (just had to file a few corners in the aluminum part of the heatsink. )

    No problems at all. :D
     
  6. long2905

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    Well the GTX 570M is a tiny bit weaker than a 6970M, equal in some games/tests.

    @GFY: other than the hardware mod, did you have to modify the bios or change anything softwarewise for the card to work properly? Is the fan control works normally? And do you need a larger PSU for it? I read from the AW forum that some have problems with the fan not working or something.

    You make me thinking of upgrading to a 6990M :D
     
  7. bar-code

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    Well i just installed a 580M in the 16F2 barebone no problems using the old 560m Heat sink just for testing purposes.
    Yes totally didnt fit, but the 16f2 booted up fine screen was showing standard vga card came up.
    When i tried to install the nvidia drivers for it, a message came up Error no GPU found therefore the drivers could not be installed.

    I'm guessing there is no bios support for this GPU.

    In all, at least i know it fitted and booted up fine even tho i couldnt test it properly.

    We need the GT683DX or GT780DX gpu heatsinks, does anyone know where we/I can get one of these heatsinks from.

    Also will the GTX485M just fit in with no new heatsink and be supported in the bios.

    tnx
     
  8. G.F.Y.

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    The only softwarewise thing I did would be removal of ati drivers, then installation of nvidia drivers. Though I could have sworn the original ones didn't work, I had to get the ones from laptopvideo2go. (?) I didn't have brightness controls, but that's it. Everything worked plain dandy :D

    Well, for the 6970m/6990m you definitely need a 180w psu. The fan? well, I have mine on turbo boost the whole time, so I don't really worry about that. ;)
     
  9. bar-code

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    Yep! thought as much for the drivers as i was trying to install the normal nvidia released one.

    Did you do any modifications to your heatsink for the 6970m/6990m fitment?

    Or was it just as you mentioned above a slight file back on corners. Can i also ask what do you have in your original gt660 gpu wise
     
  10. G.F.Y.

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    Oh, I just did the simple file on the corners of the aluminum blocks.

    Had the 5870m originaly :D
     
  11. long2905

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    @GFY: you did it! that pushed me over the edge and I have pulled the trigger on a 6990M, lets wait for it to arrive and see if it works :-s

    @bar-code: man I wish you have used a modified inf from laptopvideo2go, they have supported the 580M for awhile now (just recently added the 570M). I dont know but from what you've said i think the bios support the card alright since you can boot into windows and run the exe for the driver, just a little bit more and bam! oh well.

    Mine already came with a 180W PSU and the heatsink is for 570M so lets hope it will fit and play nice with each other.
     
  12. G.F.Y.

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    oh lol! Congrats and GOODLUCK bro :D:D:D

    If and when it works, welcome to a whole new world of "**** , it's too smooth D:<"
     
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    The GTX580M and GTX485M fit the GTX570M heatsink perfectly.

    The 6990M will need a modified HD5870 heatsink.
     
  14. bar-code

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    LOL, i actually still have the 2x 580m cards with me still and will try again on the weekend.
    Link please to the laptopvideo2go inf file please!!
    I also have 2 spare dell m18x gpu heatsinks which i might modify to fit the 16f2 chassis.

    If i do the project, i'll take full pictures as i go and post my results.
     
  15. pau1ow

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    Keep us in touch then !

    @Meaker Do you have 2 or 3 heatpipes for your GPU ? Do 570, 485, 580M and 6970+ need 3 heatpipes then ?

    @G.F.Y @dragon290513 Where guys are you buying your GPU ? I couldn't find any seller on the web...

    cheers
     
  16. Meaker

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    The heatsink fully covers the card with specific posts for each part of the VRM circuitry.

    Put a card with a different layout in there and the posts will hit into parts of the card preventing it from laying flat.

    The 460/560 heatsink will only fit those cards. The 570M heatsink will fit the 485 and 580 as they all are very similar in layout. The 5870M heatsink only requires a little modding for the 6970/6990 as shown in the 6970M upgrade at mxm-upgrade.com.
     
  17. bar-code

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    Hi Meaker, thanks for all your feedback here. +rep

    I'll be cutting the Dell gpu heatsink just after the whole flat bit which sits flat on the the gpu. So this bit will be flat and fit perfect on the card.

    Then im going to take the 460m original msi heatsink and cut that after the flat bit as well and weld it to the dell heatsink so the msi one fits around the fan bit area perfect. (the dell gpu cooler pipes are too long and designed different)

    Why doesn't MSI sell spare parts to make life easier.

    Anyway that's my theory. lol
     
  18. pau1ow

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    Then I will wait to buy a card with the right heatsinks supplied :(
    No idea where I can buy those anyway?
     
  19. long2905

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    cant wait :D
    v285.38 Windows 7/Vista 64bit | NVIDIA OEM Mobile - LaptopVideo2Go Forums
    click on download driver and inf modifieded, put the inf file into display.driver and then run setup
    there are 2 overpriced 6990M on ebay atm and I bought mine via NBR marketplace.
    maybe I should look around for a 5870M heatsink then, thanks for your info
    nah unless MSI officially support it, you have to mod it yourself :( (or ask someone to do it for you)
     
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    I thought the 570m heatsink was the same as the 560m, with only 6 VRM posts. I know the 580m has 8 VRM chips on the card itself. It's a really bad thing to not have the heatsink in contact with the VRM circuitry, right? Granted, I haven't taken out my GPU heatsink to check the 570m layout, but I could have sworn that it was like the 560m. This is basically what's been keeping me from pulling the trigger on a 580m.
     

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