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Msi gs70

Discussion in 'MSI' started by cotolay, Jun 26, 2013.

  1. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Warranty will probably be 2 years especially considering the base price is $1800 US for the low end model. You will most certainly be able to get in there and tinker with it on some level. Hopefully they design the bottom like all there other machines where you take off the back cover and everything is right there. Looking forward to hearing some impressions from the owners. I really like the direction MSI is headed with that machine it is very classy looking .
     
  2. WhatsThePoint

    WhatsThePoint Notebook Virtuoso

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    I hope gamers don't buy this only because of aesthetics?

    It doesn't look like the best bang for the buck.

    Gaming is mostly while on AC power and the GPU is the key piece of hardware in any gaming notebook.

    Being thin and having a gimmicky touchpad are not on my list of importance in a notebook I'd consider buying for gaming.

    A 17.3" for a carrying around....not hardly.

    So,what's the selling points to a gamer?

    Same candy in a new wrapper?
     
  3. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Ultra light. Huge screen. Small PSU. Hopefully good battery life for people who use there notebook for more then just gaming which many people do.

    Not targeted at "gamer" but at casual gamer on the go.

    Some people want a large screen but something they can take everywhere and if its light that helps alot.

    Clearly this is not the machine for you though.
     
  4. bkoon1218

    bkoon1218 Notebook Guru

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    Some people like myself like to game, but won't require a 780m and a 10 lbs. machine to do it. As long as I can play most games in high settings and 1080p, I'll be a happy camper. The 765m seems to fill in that category, so with Quadzilla's mentioned points, this would be a great laptop for casual gamers.

    My knowledge is limited, but I wanted to confirm... If a soldered card is fried, the entire laptop is basically useless, right?
     
  5. uzun

    uzun Notebook Geek

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    I guess that means a choice between the GE 70 and this. Similar size and weight but the GE 70 is customizable,while the GS 70 is thinner and seems more polished. Going to be a hard choice for me if the CPU is soldered on this one (although I would probably still opt for the GS70, I wish it had a 4800 at least in it). Other than Razer no one else even has a decent 17 inch Haswell under 6 lbs. Or am I missing someone else's offering?
     
  6. Quadzilla

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    The 4700CPU is quite potent but i guess that really depends if you have a specific need for a faster CPU ? People always say you are wasting your money on a CPU upgrade and 99% of the time i would say yeah but there is the 1% who do tons of video encoding etc and really need all the processing power they can get. Also it might not be a good idea to run anything bigger then a 4700 in it . Apple does it every year in there Macbooks but those guys are always looking at crazy CPU temps once they step into the bigger more power hungry CPUs and they are running at 105c throttling all to heck.

    Clearly this thing is more polished in all regards and so is the price tag in comparison to the GE70 but also less then the Razer Blade . Seems MSI knew right where to come in at regarding price and being competitive with similar machines.
     
  7. uzun

    uzun Notebook Geek

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    I use it when I travel to run Adobe Premiere Pro, I would like to have a 4800MQ or 4900MQ CPU, which have the same power draw as the 4700. Not sure if they run hotter or not though. Does anyone know if the 4800MQ or 4900MQ run any hotter than the 4700MQ does? They are all 3 rated at 47W.

    I'm not real concerned price wise between the different models. The Razer is out because it offers no expandability, even of the RAM and you cant have a second hard drive at all. The GE70 is attractive because you can put a 4900 in it and it has a DVD/BD drive, and isnt very heavy compared to other 17" laptops. The GS70 is the best of all but will probably limit me to a 4700MQ, which is likely to be enough, I am using a 2820QM now anyways, but I'd like to have a 4800 or 4900.
     
  8. Quadzilla

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    They are faster so they will run hotter but by how much who knows . On bigger machines with beefier heatsinks they get hotter by a decent margin. i know the 3840QM i had in my M17xR4 ran hot and the guy i sold it to was upset because he never saw a CPU running so hot (high 80s low 90s sometimes) just as an example . With smaller heatsinks which the GS70 will undoubtedly have those temps would be worse like they are on the Apple machines.

    I am really surprised this is not coming with a 4702 CPU because its 37w and would really make alot more sense for its design.

    Also i just noticed this says 4700HQ so i was right these are soldered CPUs like the Asus G750 uses which means 0 upgrade on the CPU front. Was not paying close enough attention to the specs when MSI dragon first posted the links.
     
  9. uzun

    uzun Notebook Geek

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    I would think since the 4700MQ, 4800MQ and 4900MQ are all rated 47W, they would put out the same amount of heat as one another. I thought the 4700MQ was used because its a much cheaper part for OEM's being OEM only.
     
  10. Quadzilla

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    Each CPU runs XXX mhz faster then the part before it . Of course it will run hotter that is just normal with anything really. You cant expect something that is 300-500mhz faster to run at the same temperature.

    The HQ is the soldered one and i do believe the absolute cheapest of the bunch since it is BGA meaning soldered to the board and no pins so less to manufacture and less complicated i suppose.
     
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    bkoon1218 Notebook Guru

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    So, if one component is fried, the whole laptop is done for? Then again, you must really be pushing your laptop to ridiculous limits to do that, right?
     
  12. Quadzilla

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    It would be the GPU to probably go bad before anything else would but hey that is why you have a warranty :). Most parts can handle a ton more heat then people give them credit for nowadays we are all just paranoid of high temps because we dont like the idea. But yeah if a part on the motherboard dies then they will toss the mainboard i suppose. They probably recycle some or most of it ill bet though.

    2 year warranty is pretty nice to have and peace of mind without having to shell out more money upfront for it . Or i guess you can say they jack up the price a little bit to cover part of the extended warranty but MSI is pretty competitive price wise.
     
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    Entionz Notebook Enthusiast

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    uzun Notebook Geek

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    I just noticed the GS70 comes with the 4700HQ processor, while the GE70 has the 4700MQ. I guess in this case the difference is only in the cpu package, one is soldered OEM most likely and the other would be on some sort of a socket.

    Are there any significant differences between the 4700HQ and trhe 4700MQ?
     
  15. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Everything i have read about the HQ and MQ seems to boil down to soldered vs removable beyond that they are identical.
     
  16. bkoon1218

    bkoon1218 Notebook Guru

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    Tbh, people are mainly gonna buy this for aesthetics more than functions. It's significantly cheaper to get other better laptops, but they're bigger or less attractive (subjective).

    Does MSI offer extended warranty options like Alienware? I only change computers every 4-6 years, so two years for a $1.7k machine doesn't provide me much security, lol.
     
  17. Quadzilla

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    Im not sure about extended warranties beyond the 2 years. You can check gentechpc.com too see if they do by looking at another MSI machine. Scroll to the bottom of the config page where the warranty stuff is and they might offer an additional year.

    Beyond that there is always other warranty companies like Square Trade or pay for it with a credit card that offers an additional year free on computers . That is something i have seen many people talk about getting that free year from there CC company.
     
  18. bkoon1218

    bkoon1218 Notebook Guru

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    According to the MSI website, the GS70 comes with two years limited warranty. The Square Trade warranty isn't much different, except for accidental protection. :/

    I see an extended warranty on their website, but I'm unsure as to what it really means. I think it's saying you can extend up to 3 years of warranty. For those that are interested: http://www.msimobile.com/warranty/extend_notebooks.aspx

    Gosh, I edited this post so many times to not be misleading, lol.
     
  19. smashhell

    smashhell Notebook Enthusiast

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    One thing.
    The Razer blade 17"inch is 6.6lbs.
    So this thing will be lighter, thinner, and cheaper. :)
     
  20. bkoon1218

    bkoon1218 Notebook Guru

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    Can't wait to get some reviews on this. I'm just curious about the noise emissions, heat, and accessibility of internal components. Everything else seems pretty standard.
     

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