MSI GS60 Ghost Tweak Information

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  1. mardon

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    I thought I’d produce a guide for some of the tweaks for the MSI GS60 Pro as they are hidden deep within the massive owners thread. A lot of these tweaks can also be applied to the non pro model and the GS70.

    CPU Overclocking and Undervolting

    The Intel i7 4700HQ (in older models) and 4710HQ in the GS60 doesn’t tend to run particularly hot but it’s always nice to save some power (and potentially battery life and heat) by underclocking the CPU. Intel have produced a great program which can be downloaded from HERE:

    The program is simple to use and different profiles can be saved and applied for different uses.
    I generally only use two profiles. An underclocked and undervolted profile for use on battery and an overclocked and undervolted for use when plugged in and gaming.
    I will give a brief explanation on how to create a new profile and how to overclock the CPU.
    Once installed (using administrators rights) on the left hand column you can see the various options. Select the “Manual Tuning” tab. On this page you have access to many sliders and tools for tweaking your CPU. I’m only going to play with a few of the settings. The first is the multiplier for Turbo boost. You will see 4 sliders relating to the core multiplier of the CPU. The chip can attain different speeds depending on how many cores are under load. E.g. If only one core is active you can actually overclock the CPU to use a frequency of 100FSB x 37 multiplier resulting of a clock speed of 3.7GHZ, this drops down to 100FSB x35 multiplier clock speed of 3.5GHZ when all 4 cores are loaded. For this profile I’m going to set the multiplier on all for cores to 18 resulting of a large underclocked core speed of 1.8GHZ .
    Next up were going to by using the “Dynamic CPU Voltage Offset” slider. For my Underclock and Undervolted Profile I use a voltage reduction of -104mV. This will vary from CPU to CPU as not all silicon is equal. Some people will be able to underclock more others less so. It is essential you stress test the system to check for stability. Luckily for us Intel provides a tool within the program to stress the CPU. Apply the settings and then click on the “Stress Test” tab on the left hand side. I recommend setting a voltage of -90mV and stress testing for 15mins, if it passes bump it down some more and keep testing until you find a voltage that doesn’t pass the stress test. Once you find this bump the voltage up between 5 and 10mV and stress test again for 30mins or so. If all passes ok you can now save this profile. Click on the “Manual Tuning” tab and look for the save button on the right hand side. Give the profile a name which is relevant.

    For reference here are my settings and profiles
    Default – Stock Clocks and Voltage
    Quiet Time – 18 multi on all cores with a dynamic voltage offset of -100mV
    Undervolt Overclock – 37,36,35,35 multi and dynamic voltage of -45mV


    GPU and Fan Tweaks
    We’re all well aware of the potential heat issues with the 870m GPU. It’s not really surprising considering the amount of power the 870m packs in such a thin chassis. I’ve implemented all the tweaks that follow some are more advanced than others but I have no temperature issues anymore and haven’t seen 93C in a long while as well as having better than stock performance.

    Modded VBIOS
    A good way to reduce temperature is to use less voltage. The stock Vbios is locked and will not allow any voltage changes.
    Please see below for my modified 870m VBios’s. They all use different settings and voltages for different results and are all unlocked and can be tweaked to your taste using Nvidia Inspector or MSI After Burner. (I have included the latest stock 870m Vbios)

    PLEASE NOTE I CAN NOT GUARANTEE THESE SETTINGS OR VOLTAGES WILL WORK ON YOUR LAPTOP OR TAKE ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR DAMAGE

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    Mardon's 870m VBios's - View attachment 870m Moddified VBios Files.zip
    Here is an 860m VBios with boost logic disabled (uses turbo at all times under full load) and unlocked Core limit, with slightly more voltage for those that wish to experiment with overclocking - View attachment Unlock860.zip

    The following links will be required to flash the Vbios:
    RUFUS Bootable Pen Drive
    NVflash VBios Flashing and Recovery Tool

    The VBios can be flashed following the steps outlined in my video:



    Modded EC File
    The stock fan is quite noisy on idle so i've moddified the EC profile so the stock speed drops from 47% down to 44%, the high end fan now boosts to 100% over 90C unlike the stock EC so hopefully this will lower temperatures further when gaming. You'll notice this is an older 504EC. Unfortunately the latest EC is not working for fan speed changes. If a solution is found i'll update this post.
    To flash run "winflash" as an administrator and browse to the "16H2EMS1.504" file. The fans will spin up to max while this is being installed. Turn the laptop off, remove the AC adapter cable then push the little reset button using a pin on the right hand side of the laptop (next to the LAN port). Plug the AC adapter in (dont panic if you forget and the laptop doesn't start like I did first time round) and turn the laptop back on and enjoy the quieter stock fans!

    Official MSI EC Flashing Guide found HERE

    View attachment 504 - Modded.zip
    Here is the same fan profile but with a 45% fan speed at idle as some people have had issues with 44% View attachment 504 - 45.zip

    Useful Links :thumbsup:

    The following are some more useful links I have used on my laptop:































    Use
    GS60 PRO Download Page
    Assembly Guide Must be registered and logged in
    Disassembly Guide AS ABOVE
    Tear down video
    Colour Profile from Kazoul
    ModRQC Vbios Modding Guide (free method)
    Intel Tuning Utility
    Core Temp CPU Monitoring
    NvidiaInspector
    Afterburner
    Start Is back
    Alternative Elan Driver



























    Link
    http://www.msi.com/support/nb/GS60_2PE_Ghost_Pro.html#down-bios
    https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=179184.0;attach=12935
    https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=179184.0;attach=12936
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsF0Bpuj8ss
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/742589-msi-gs60-ghost-ghost-pro-thread-211.html#post9664193
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/747505-msi-gs70-stealth-pro-theard-51.html#post9698771
    https://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?keyword=%22%22extreme+tuning+utility%22%22
    http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
    http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/nvidia-inspector-download.html
    http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/msi-afterburner-beta-download.html
    http://startisback.com/
    http://goo.gl/Uwhgvj
    Intel Wirelss AC-7260 tweaks
    After fiddling with the wireless settings some more where I was previously limited to 30/40Mbps and would get 102Mbps through the ethernet port. I can now achieve pretty much the same speeds via wifi or LAN.
    Here are my settings used in the Intel Wirelss AC-7260 Advanced Tab in the device manager:













































    802.11n Channel Width for 2.4Ghz
    802.11n Channel Width for 5.2Ghz
    Ad Hoc Channel
    Ad Hoc Qos Mode
    ARP offload for WoWLAN
    Bluetooth
    Fat Channel Intolerant
    GTK rekeying for WoWLAN
    HT Mode
    Mixed Mode Portection
    NS offload for WoWLAN
    Packed Coalescing
    Preffered Band
    Roaming Aggressiveness
    Sleep on WoWLAN Disconnect
    Transmit Power
    U-APSD support
    Wake on Magic Packet
    Wake on Pattern Match
    Wireless Mode









































    = Auto
    = 20Mhz Only
    = 1
    = Disabled
    = Disabled
    = Enabled
    = Enabled
    = Disabled
    = HT Mode
    = CTS-t-self Enable
    = Disabled
    = Disabled
    = 5.2Ghz band
    = 1.Lowest
    = Disabled
    = 5.Highest
    = Disabled
    = Disabled
    = Disabled
    = 6. 802.11a/b/g
    If you wish to add or edit anything please send me a PM and i'll get it sorted.

    I hope you all find this useful!

    Massive shout out to Svet over at the MSI forums for creating the EC and BIOS turner, You can download his program and create you're own VBIOS's HERE.
     

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  2. Mighty_X

    Mighty_X Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for this awesome guide!
    Just to be totally sure: The EC is the same for Pro and nonPro version? So far my notebook is a nonPro"virgin", meaning i never flashed anything. If I want quieter fans I just download 504- Modded.zip. Run winflash as Admin. This istalles the EC version 504 ? and then I will be able to choose to flash the "16H2EMS1.504" file (still in the winflash program). Shut down- remove AC- press pin- AC back - start.
    So I do not have to flash something BIOS like first right?

    Greatings
     
  3. mardon

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    Yeah you got it. No bios etc needed. You'll see I've included a modded 860m file if you want to overclock that later down the line as well.
     
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    Great guide! and that ulv vbios is mighty aggressive. Do you recall if nvidia inspector was suppose to allow for changing of the voltage offset after a custom vbios was flashed? I thought I read that a couple months ago, but when I tried, it didn't seem to work (it let me change it and hit apply, but when I actually monitored the voltage, it always stayed at w/e it was set to by the custom vbios).
    I'm also curios how much extra effort would it be to add roms with the remaining ~12.5mV steps (-137mV, -142mV, -154mV) while keeping the clocks the same.

    Update/Edit: nm on nvidia inspector, it seems if I hit apply enough times it starts to work.
     
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    Ok i tried that now. But when runing winflash there are only 2 Buttons (Start and Stop) and after starting it it did something but there was no option to choose the specific modded file! Now my fans spin up and down every 5 sec which is super anoying ofc =) what did i do wrong? Thanks
     
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    I flashed the 247ulv but my GPU clock still says 967Mhz in GPU-Z. Am I looking in the wrong place?
     
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    I'm still new to this clocking business, so I was wondering about the custom VBIOS choices. 247 seems to keep most stock performance while lowering voltage. Is there a big performance difference between 247lv 247ulv? I realize -37 versus -62 seems big for the 3D Max Performance, but is that pretty drastic when compared to actual real-world use? And what approximately are the max temperatures for all of these? Excuse my ignorance :)

    Also, is the fan profile (and these custom VBIOSes, for that matter) still usable with the newest BIOS?
    EDIT: Well, considering the VBIOS has not been updated, I assume that the VBIOS is fine with the new BIOS. The EC, though, not sure.
     
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    Xentar712 I've double checked the vbios and it's definitely set at 954mhz. Perhaps you spelt something wrong so it didn't flash or you have an overclock applied at start up?

    13mhz is a tiny drop and with boost logic removed your probably gaining performance. Try a before and after benchmark and see how you do.
    The larger numbers differences between the different vbios's is the voltage. That doesn't affect performance directly, but it will affect the heat generated.

    You can always bump the mem clock 200/300 mhz and gain quite a bit if performance that way.
     
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    Thank you for this ! I have had my gs60 pro for a couple months now and i love it, was getting ready to dig in the owners thread to find this info on some tweaking. You read my mind and made it much easier!
     
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    mardon, thank you for your effort with this contribution. It is done with lots of time and labor spent, and it is informative.
    It would be nice if you can also include Svet in the post to give him credit because the firmware and VBIOS were modified using his tool.
    I believe he made an extraordinary support for you to verify the firmwares.
    Svet - MSI Forum

    Thank you.
     
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