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  1. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Where did you get those scores and tests? They seem all over the place. The performance difference grew larger over 1440p, and possibly even larger at 4k, but what systems were tested? I would like to read the review :)
     
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    huh, the problem with the averge improvement is those games that either receive a massive improvement, and those that hardly do. I think on older games and e-sports, you won't get improvement as much but then again the framerates on those games are insanely high.

    In more modern games like BF, Watch dogs and tomb raider there was around 20-40% improvement at 1440

    In older games it was more like 3-10%.

    And I bet this is probably going to widen at 4K.

    Are there any RTX2060 reviews yet?
     
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    I was watching an italian Hardware Upgrade channel on youtube and it seems the RTX2060 is slower, and up to par with a GTX1080 max Q. At worst, the 1080 max Q is about 15% faster, at best, the RTX2060 is a bit 5% faster.

    In some games the 2060 was about 35% faster than a 1060. Results seem also all over the place. Perhaps the limits of TDP control? Seems like the laptop 2060 will be around the normal 1070 but perhaps will fare better in higher rest due to higher memory bandwidth.
     
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    qwerty8224 Notebook Guru

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    rtx2080 doesn't fit into our laptop ((((in gt75 2080 it’s just huge) they expanded it 2080 wider than 1080 ((((


    It seems to me that she also has a power cable.
    Can there be a version without a power cable? It remains to reap and hope)))
     
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    OK, but I do not really care about 4k and 1440p. For FHD this is a joke... +300-400EUR for 10%? Come on, I can throw my money out of the window, it is rather easier to waste
     
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    For current games perhaps, but newer games are going to see improvements. Then again for 1080p any GPU below a 1070 is the only reason to upgrade if you want max performance without compromise. Higher end GPUs are always sold for higher res.

    It's the reason why the 1060 was popular besides being cheaper, it allowed high quality graphics at 1080p at 60fps.

    My laptop might be 1080p, but I use my TV to play several games and the GTX1080 served me well. Had my goal be only 1080p I wouldn't have ever gotten a GTX1080. Now I am looking into keeping this performance level, but make it more portable. But obviously that's just me.

    You are also acting as if we didn't know this was going to happen, specially with the lackluster RTX desktop launch. We knew and had good guesses where all new GPUs would fall around.
     
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    My hope is that MSI has used their existing GTX 1070 / 1080 format for the new RTX cards in the GT63. The user manual does say that the GPU is using a MXM format, so all we need to do is wait for a teardown review of the GT63. @GenTechPC do you plan on doing such a review for the GT63?

    I am guessing if the cards are sold separately the price will probably be pretty high initially. I am seeing $1000 for the Clevo RTX 2070 and $1400 for the Clevo RTX 2080 on Eurocom's site right now, for instance...
     
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    Oh wow, those prices are indeed high. You have a good guess though, I hope the GPU fits in theory, and there are bound to be a couple of MXM models.
     
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    Sure I'll do the video review for GT63.
     
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