More then 2 gigs of RAM for gaming worth it?

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  1. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    The word on the street is that its only usfull for systems with a low amount of system ram, like 1gb. a 2gb+ system supposedly recieves little or no benifit from it.
     
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    X-29 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Just remeber that if you are running a 32-bit operating system, and if you are using XP you probably are, then you cannot fully use 4GB of RAM. The max amout of RAM a 32-bit system can access is somewhere around 3GB. If you get a 64-bit operating system (which you can't really find preinstalled) then the max amount of memory the system can access skyrockets to some unholy amount like 32GB or something.

    I don't think that games can recomend higher system requirements than 2GB's since only Vista 64-bit operating systems can really use that RAM anyway. And a 64-bit operating system has even more compatability issues than Vista has already, so I wouldn't think anyone is going to be using that anytime soon. Thats not something that can be fixed with SP1 either. The compatability issues come from programs (mostly installers) that are still written for 16-bit systems. Those will never work with a 64-bit OS.
     
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    I have been wondering about this very point... both the G1S and the C90S have configuration options on several popular sites for 3GB of RAM but wouldn't you lose any benefit from the 2GB to 3GB move due to the drop to single channel???

    It would drop from dual channel to single channel wouldn't it??? In all of the desktop systems I have built 2 identically sized sticks of RAM were required to enable dual channel...

    Any one have a good comparison, say on a G1S???

    Thanks,

    Joe
     
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    jroyv Newbie

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    Found my answer Here in an other thread...

    Intel's Tech doc has this to say:

    Dual-Channel Asymmetric
    This mode is entered when both memory channels are routed and populated with different amounts (MB) of total memory. This configuration allows addresses to be accessed in series across the channels starting in channel A until the end of its highest rank, then continue from the bottom of channel B to the top of the rank. Real world applications are unlikely to make requests
    that alternate between addresses that sit on opposite channels with this memory organization, so in most cases, bandwidth will be limited to that of a single channel.

    Learn something new every day...
    It would be nice to see some "Real Game" comparison benchmarks though :)
     
  5. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Dual channel is so over rated.... in a memory benchmark like sandra on a scale of 1000 points your losing a few points (50ish). In a game or somthing you MAY at max lose 1fps, and thats just giving you the benifit of the doubt :p the 1gb extra ram is much much better.

    Its just another one of those computer myths that got out of hand like how vista is a memory hog. You know the real answer to that one by now dont you?

    Vista uses more memory than XP when the memory is unused, it speeds up the system with featuers like superfetch. But when you start a game or some other app that needs the RAM, vista will unload those resources and let the program have them. So its about equal to XP in memory use besides the obvious stuff like aero taking up abit more resrouces, but you can set it to have those things turned off when you boot into a game or program aswell.

    I used to be a benchmark freak, and when your trying to top 10 in world wide benchmark contest, every little thing counts. Thats when you spring for tight ram latencies, 1:1 cpu:ram divder, and ram that can be overclocked really high, and of course the ever so popular dual channel. Every bit counted. But for the every day user its not a big deal trust me.
     
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    I guess that is why it took so long for them to bother putting dual channel in laptops... Thanks for the info...
     
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    Amblin42 Notebook Guru

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    Thank you. I do get so tired of seeing Vista bashers spout it's idle RAM consumption as some kind of crime. It's not doing anything for you at the moment, so it actively tries to find things that it can load for you that it believes will be used. If it then detects that you are loading something else, all of that information is overwritten immediately as if it was a empty to begin with.

    I have a 1.5 year old HP ZD8000 with 2GB RAM and a 5400 RPM Hard drive running Vista, and it loads programs faster than machines I've used with Raid 0 7200 RPM drives and 2-3GB of RAM running XP.

    Ok, enough of my ranting :) I will leave the thread to resume it's previous course.
     
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