More companies pulling out of the App Store hmmmmm, interesting.

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  1. kojack

    kojack Notebook Virtuoso

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    I have noticed I have received emails from 3 stores I use stating they are "retiring" their Apple App Store app, and directing you to the website as it is mobile friendly. How come that now? Does apple take 30 percent of all sales via app? For example, MEC has their app and I buy a new tent from them, does apple take a cut of that sale?
     
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    They get the cut of the app sale and any recurring fees from the app, this is the beef that Epic has with them, they take that cut despite Apple providing no service beyond hosting the app. This sort of recurring revenue that has essentially no associated cost is something Apple has been pushing for years. As an example you used to be able to pay 5 or 10 bucks and get an app which will track airline schedules and flights. One by one they were almost all bought out and now there are just a few that all work on a subscription. Yet none of those apps actually do anything after the sale that requires a subscription; they simple access a public database which costs nothing and there is no need for a recurring fee as the app can and does do the entire process for nothing. You have it because all the people that sold the paid and done apps were bought out (with NDA's) by those few that now remain that charge subscription fees. This is the model that Apple is pushing which amounts to printing money while providing nothing. They only thing that really fixes this is to force Apple to allow sideloading and/or other markets.
     
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    kojack Notebook Virtuoso

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    OK. That's a good way of explaining it. Another thing is apple gave Amazon an 85/15 deal too after claiming there are no exemptions over the 70/30 deal. My question though is for hard goods. Not digital goods. Say I owned a clothing company and had an app. If I sold a jacket would apple take 30 percent of that jacket was sold using the app?
     
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    kylera Notebook Consultant

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    I’m not a dev but the way I understand the commission system is that Apple takes its 30% cut when you sell the app (as opposed to a free download) and you sell in-app purchases - not like item orders but like ad removal, in game currency, stuff like that.
     
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    Store fronts like Amazon are not charged for the sales of physical goods. Digital goods on the other hand are fair game, music, movies, subscriptions, app unlocks, etc. And yeah, if you're big enough you get to make deals in any enterprise but few are so big when you're talking about Apple. IMO the market system needs to be broken, both for Apple and Google. Consumers win big; developers win big, more competition, more diversity. Apple and Google would still be making a fortune that any corporation would envy; no need to shed tears for them Those boys will still be flying in the corporate jet drinking champagne and scheming over new ways to screw customers.
     
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    kojack Notebook Virtuoso

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    No worries here about shedding a tear for anything that happens to apple. I use the iphone, I have turned on my ipad once in the past couple of weeks since my cheap samsung tablet got the new Android OS and new MS launcher update. It's fast now, and works great for me. It's actually more stable than my ipad which throws fits because of various apps crashing constantly.
     
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    Mrs Krab is Apple so I play with it from time to time. Haven't actually owned it for years though, it's an answer to a question I never asked and I'm never happy with the limitations. To be honest it's been enough time now that I dont remember exactly where android got to the "just works" point but it's been a while.
     
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