Mobile RX6000s in 2021

Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by BrightSmith, Mar 11, 2021.

  1. yrekabakery

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    Or just the fact that it’s based on a power-starved 6700 XT with rasterization performance likely between 3070M and 3080M, with weaker ray tracing and no DLSS, isn’t much to get excited over. But at least it’s fairly easy to raise the power limit on AMD GPUs by editing the PowerPlay tables with MorePowerTool.
     
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    I'm calling BS when the 6800M is launching in the Strix G15, and that uses Max-Q power level Nvidia GPUs. Why would ASUS use power crippled 80W 3070s/3080s if they have the thermal budget for 145W 6800Ms?

    I expect a "we allow out partners to set their own TGP budgets" statement when it comes out that this graph is fugazi, and that AMD has allowed a situation just as messy as Nvidia.
     
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    Well, it's not 145w, but it's also not 80w for the RX 6800m in that laptop. So... it's something. Don't know what, though.
     
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    Skip to 4:45 to bypass the AMD PR and get to the benchmarks.

    Bruh
     
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    Yeah, not so hot considering the extra VRAM it has over most RTX 3000 laptop GPUs. Oh well.
     
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    At least these GPUs can match their desktop counterparts if you give them enough power unlike Nvidia's mobile lineup.

    Edit: Nevermind, I'm wrong. These GPUs are cut down as well. At this point I'm just going to build myself an ultraportable gaming PC. I'm tired of this cut down GPUs in laptops crap.
     
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    They’re even more cut down than Nvidia’s.

    3080 Desktop: 68 SMs
    3080 Laptop: 48 SMs

    6800XT Desktop: 72 CUs
    6800M: 40 CUs

    You’d have to go back to Fermi/Terascale days to see this kind of blatant performance gap between desktop and mobile parts of the same name. At least AMD is calling it the 6800M so there’s no ambiguity about it being crap. :rolleyes:
     
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    So Anandtech has the presentation for the RX 6000m series up on their website. Looking at the endnotes, we can see the comparison laptops AMD chose were an MSI GE63 Raider (for the RTX 2070 laptop), ASUS ROG G533QS (for the RTX 3080 mobile laptop), ASUS ROG G513QR (for the RTX 3070 mobile laptop), and a Razer Blade (for the RTX 3060 mobile laptop).
    At least they used the same laptop design for the RX 6800m comparison vs the RTX 3000 series (same can't be said for the RX 6600m comparison), but compared to the highest watt RTX 3080, it looks like the RX 6800m won't compete with it. Considering how LTT, Anandtech, and Jarrod's all have posted benchmarks where the RX 6800m is mostly losing, I have to wonder what AMD were doing with the laptops during their own benchmarking.
     
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    Think about the fact that AMD is enabling this with almost all compatible GPUs even from the competition, just makes you respect them a lot more than greedy corporates. All their technologies are open sourced: CAS was AMD first until Nvidia took notice and baked it into control panel sharpening, same with freesync-it has made gsync hardware completely irrelevant. This is exactly what technology is about, enabling easy access to everyone. I hope the 6800m(and notice it's not called 6800XT) edges out a "3080" with this tech while costing less than a 3070 , that should be a huge win AMD rightly deserves. They deserve the apex spot since Lisa Su took over.
     
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