Microsoft Creators Update, April 11 , 2017 Rollout

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  1. saturnotaku

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    Did all that, no change. Performed the suggestions from VPN.ac support, no change. However, if I change the connection protocol to L2TP/IPSec, everything is good, so there must be some sort of incompatibility between this Windows build and OpenVPN and/or the TAP driver used to connect to the VPN service.
     
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    Can you tell us which are those 2006 drivers?
     
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    oh I always use LT2P it's much faster then OpenVPN ECC
     
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    The speed increase is noticeable. I'll be using L2TP from now on.
     
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    L2TP isn't encrypted, you need to also encrypt with IPSEC, a 2 step process, which is slower than OpenVPN (preferred) according to these sites:

    Which is the Best VPN Protocol? PPTP vs. OpenVPN vs. L2TP/IPsec vs. SSTP
    https://www.howtogeek.com/211329/wh...ocol-pptp-vs.-openvpn-vs.-l2tpipsec-vs.-sstp/

    Compare VPN Protocols - PPTP vs L2TP vs OpenVPN vs Chameleon
    https://www.giganews.com/vyprvpn/compare-vpn-protocols.html

    This one says L2TP/IPSEC is fastest :)

    PPTP vs. L2TP vs. OpenVPN: which one to use?
    https://vpn.ac/knowledgebase/36/PPTP-vs-L2TP-vs-OpenVPN-which-one-to-use.html

    If MS isn't allowing OpenVPN to work, they are deciding for us what's best ;)
     
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    The vpn.ac client includes the necessary encryption when using L2TP.


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    I wasn't suggesting L2TP + IPSEC weren't included together, just that it was a 2 step process that has more overhead. Particular optimized implementations compared against each other can change the order of performance, but that doesn't mean a further optimized OpenVPN couldn't be faster yet :)

    VPN.AC Client Software (Windows)
    https://vpn.ac/knowledgebase/42/VPNAC-Client-Software-Windows.html

    What are the speed comparisons you've experienced? MB/sec, latency?, via the same servers?
     
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    I can't make a comparison until OpenVPN fixes whatever issue is causing the "resolving host" lag that is not present when using L2TP.
     
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    Then how do you know it's faster? ;)

    What about before now, did you run any comparisons before the Windows 10 broken update?
     
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    I only used OpenVPN prior to the update, as it worked just fine for my usage. There was some slight slowdown, mostly when streaming video (files were a bit slower to load than normal), but other browsing and even Steam downloads were not affected in an overly perceivable way. However, now that I have used L2TP since OpenVPN is broken, seat of the pants impressions have it feeling very close to there being no VPN at all, regardless of what I am doing online. If there is more overhead with the two-step process, then perhaps there is more wrong with OpenVPN than just what has been happening as a result of the W10 update.
     
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