Micron to ship Intel Optane competitor later this year

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  1. Dr. AMK

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    EDIT: Micron to ship Intel Optane competitor later this year
    Micron's QuantX will ship later this year, which will then be adopted by storage makers


    Intel's spanking new high-capacity Optane SSD is cool, but drives from other storage vendors based on the 3D Xpoint technology could be coming later this year.

    Micron will start shipping its 3D Xpoint memory technology -- branded QuantX -- later this year, which will go into SSDs offered by storage makers. The company made that announcement during an earnings call on Friday.
    Intel and Micron co-developed 3D Xpoint. Intel says Optane is significantly faster and could replace conventional SSDs and DRAM in the coming years.

    But unlike Intel, Micron is not interested in making its own Optane-like storage. The company is licensing its 3D Xpoint technology to other storage makers. Micron's QuantX will also be available the form of DDR-style memory, the company has said.

    It's not yet known which storage makers will offer SSDs based on QuantX. Micron did not respond to requests for comment.

    But the SSDs will be targeted at enterprises, much like Intel's first large capacity SSD called Optane DC P4800X SSD, which started shipping last week. The 375GB SSD is priced at $1,520.

    Internal benchmarks showed the Optane SSD worked up to eight times faster in random read and write than did conventional SSDs. Intel initially hyped the 3D Xpoint technology as being 1,000 times faster than conventional NAND flash, but the company later clarified that applies only at the cell level, not to SSD media like Optane.

    Micron has said QuantX-based SSDs would have capacities up to 1.4TB. Those drives would plug into PCI-Express 3.0/NVMe slots.

    QuantX installations could look different from Intel's Optane. Micron is aligning with emerging throughput technologies like Gen-Z, which could expand QuantX from x86 to ARM servers. The QuantX storage and memory will also have its own controllers and sit close to the CPU for quick data transfers, cutting potential bottlenecks.




    [ Further reading: Micron reveals marketing details about 3D XPoint memory QuantX ]
     
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    Crazy-priced 1.4TB? I'd rather they introduce 4TB m.2 2280 drives at last, not this disappointing ****. \=
     
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    I think this revolutionary technology is just begun, and we will see more speeds and capacities along with reduced prices in the future.
     
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    That's what people said about 10 years ago, and we're not exactly at affordable levels when it comes to 1TB or 2TB SSD's - not unless you're willing to dish out at least £260 to £300 for 1TB... and that's too much for many people (heck, in many cases, even M2 SSD's in capacity of 250gb to 500gb are priced at £150 and £200 - depending on the brand).
    HDD's are still about 5x cheaper in comparison.
    You can get 8TB 3.5" HDD for the price of 1TB SSD.

    So, when exactly will SSD's finally overtake HDD's?
    At the artificial price inflation rates we're seeing now, not anytime soon.

    Many laptops are finally ditching the optical drive these days (which is a good thing), however, the downside is that if you want SSD and HDD for storage, your only options are regular 2.5" SSD and external HDD... or more expensive M.2 SSD and high capacity HDD.

    Notice how most OEM's still ship their laptops with HDD's for the most part.
    SSD's aren't really included, or if they are, they usually come in 120GB capacity (which is increasingly becoming insufficient).
    The minimum one could get away with today can be 120GB SSD yes, but 256GB would be better if you're gaming and use other software.

    I feel as if laptops are (again) at a stage where they were with mobile HDD's 10 years ago (and it's been 10 years already since SSD's were released).
    Low capacity SSD's are affordable while higher capacity ones, not so much.
     
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    Deks, I agree on many of your points.

    The price difference between HDD's and SSD's effectively mirrors the usability of a system for someone that actually depends on one.

    On sale, a 1TB SSD is still less today than a 60GB HDD (Hitachi Travelstar 7200 RPM) was not that long ago (at intro; I paid $500 gladly for a few samples of those fast platters) - while giving obviously better performance, of course.

    Anything less than 500GB capacity is throwaway, as far as SSD's go... On a main system; 1TB is the minimum and 2TB for a single drive is not overkill either, (almost...) regardless of the price.

    Low capacity SSD's are not affordable; they're a waste of time and money. And they leave huge performance on the table too.

    While I would love to buy SSD's at HDD prices, the reality is that we have to pay what they're worth in the market (as a whole).

    If manufacturers can sell at the $1/GB level (meaning people buy them...) they will.

    With XPoint coming onto the scene, today's SSD's will go by the way of the HDD (price wise) sooner than later...

    Don't forget that SSD's are hovering around the 1960's or early 1970's when compared to their HDD relatives. In other words; they're still a young (consumer) tech. More importantly; up until now, there was no other choice (let alone a better choice).

    See:
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/127105/article.html

    When XPoint SSD's and XPoint DIMM's are actually available and deemed affordable for many; SSD's will be sold for what they're actually worth today (i.e. HDD's prices...).

    But, at that point? They won't be worth the raw materials they're made with (to me...) - if XPoint (or something better) lives up to it's promise, by then. ;)
     
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    Dr. AMK, thanks for the link above, good reading. :)

    May I make a suggestion? Please paste the actual URL in future posts. I don't like clicking on links that don't tell me where they're going. ;)

    Ty.
     
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    OK thank you for your kindness, it was too long but I'll do your advice in the future,

    EDIT: What Aerospike learned from testing Intel's superfast Optane SSDs - Computerworld.com

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    You can put it like this also What Aerospike learned from testing Intel's superfast Optane SSDs - Computerworld.com
    Aka put in the topic phrase and the web address:) Mostly will the topic and web address be shorter than the whole url. Aka the post will look cleaner.

    Edit: You can as well shorten the topic article name.
     
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