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Make your own Napp CD and Restore Disk to to disk from you Restore Cd

Discussion in 'Acer' started by andyasselin, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. andyasselin

    andyasselin Notebook Deity

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    Hey any one want know how i just figured it out realy easy all need free someware from microsoft and the disk format disk and you can make youself nappcd version 5..1.8 that will make new hiddent partion from you restore dvds :> let me know if any one instrested
     
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    ismailap Newbie

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    Hi,

    Can please explain me how to do this becuase i lost all my partion and now my hard drive completely formatted but i have recovery cd. please tell how can i restore my laptop to factory state and to use recovery partition in future i am usin TM 3260 right now.

    Thanks isn advance
     
  3. Pvt. Snafu

    Pvt. Snafu Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes Please. I just bought the restore and System CD's directly from Acer.
    Unsure if there is the rytools or the "napp.dat" but I guess you have the answer.

    So please....do tell....DO TELL!
     
  4. andyasselin

    andyasselin Notebook Deity

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    you can edit disk format iso to load diffent exe shound work but i have,nt test since i don,nt own acer any more what model you talk about?
     
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    Pvt. Snafu Notebook Enthusiast

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    @andyasselin

    An Acer Aspire 5315-2698.

    My Wife, for my christmas, bought it from an R-2-O vendor, who, unbeknownst to her, BOOGERED IT UP.

    No eRecovery. (True Image Secure Zone instead of PqService/AcerService)

    No using "green E" button to powerup lappy to Acer Arcade.

    And I kinda want those things.........but the r-2-o vendor thinks that I'll be better off with a half-boogered product..

    And no, I can't go in and complain, otherwise they'll say "gimme the unit"
    and I just wiped out their partitions. (not before I backed them up but...I used PQI drive image. and put those to 3 DVD+R-DL discs)

    the vendor thinks that this Ought to be the way I must receive acer product.

    Uh Uh.

    Cannot hand it back to R2O vendor and say Give me something else. It would break wife's heart. Said she bought it outright and all...(yeah right.)

    So that means I gotta eat $900.00. when all is said and done (yeah....ouch!)

    Well, if I gotta eat that much (on top of $41.10 for eRecovery Discs from acer, as appetizer) I want a perfect meal, dammit! with a functioning green 'E' on top for dessert!

    SO THAT is why I need a napp CD for this model....

    thank you.

    Also when I LLF'd the lappy's HD...(had to, pqservice was gone!, I recovered some stuff using active@undelete, but it's boogered up with parts being overwrittten and rytools was gone as well.) and reinstalled using the 1-SCD/2-R-DVD's that i bought from acer. I thought that would bring the pqservice back.....NOPE! still just one big harddrive, No three partition setup!

    Cannot accept acer telling me that once the service partition is gone, then its gone for good. and have to pay mucho $$$$$ to re-napp the lappy....I'm already over a barrel with the R2O because wife really wanted me to have it for christmas. And so do I. I want to someday re-upholster the lappy with fake alligator skin material. so that It matches the color scheme. THEN it will be SHARP lappy! Just imagine....Openeing the lappy and finding the keys are wood (same wood from cherry scrabble tiles) the trim is the same wood texture....sharp!!!

    Now...tell me how this editing the iso works....I assume it's the system CD, Right?
     
  6. paten

    paten Notebook Consultant

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    The "green E" button does not powerup to Acer Arcade. If you have a standard Acer default install, the green button only brings the Empowering Technology software to the top of your desktop. If, after you receive your recovery disks from Acer, you want to have the standard partitions that the Acer usually comes with, you will have to repartition your hard drive manually. I also have to ask, is that $900 for the 5315 American dollars? Cause that is way too much for an Acer 5315.
     
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    Pvt. Snafu Notebook Enthusiast

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    by the way...how DO you PM people here on the board?
     
  8. ATG

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    You need 15 posts and then to wait a couple of hours.

    Anyway, I made a NAPP CD once. Well.. I modified one is more right to say. It worked and I still have it but it's for a tablet pc, ACER C110, and probably won't work for you. If you still want to give it a try though e-mail me.
     
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    Let me explain.......and sorry for the long post and sob story in advance....

    R-2-O means rent to own....here in the states what R-2-O vendors do is double the price of the product, and you pay, over time, ($25 a week for example)....to that inflated price...that is how R-2-O people make their money....

    My wife really wanted me to unwrap a laptop for christmas....Giving it back now would break her heart. I ain't breaking her heart. I went down this road before, with her. Last time I had to give it back, because I couldn't afford the $130.00 monthly payments the Other R-2-O was charging me.

    About 9 months back I got a gateway P-III solo lappy,for $20. Dead. Told All I have to do is fix the dc jack, and the watch battery. an everything would be fine....took it apart, relaized the battery holder was not soldered on right...took it to repair dealer in pieces. had them give me an honest estimate, said they couldn't fix it because they couldnt work that small scale...and broke off the rest of the holder for good measure...said all I could get was $4 bucks just for the HD and maybe the LCD screen explainig they didnt have testing equipment to cover it...........wife tossed it mad as hell that $20 bucks got suckered from me....
    at least I was able to keep the HD....but i shoulda kept the lcd because.....

    About a few months back i got a P-III Stinkpad, with a 40gig drive for about $40 bucks! It was good. then three days later...Wife came in my den and tripped on something and hit her hand on the lid and cracked the lcd. Wish i kept the previous lappy parts, because I coulda used that LCD.....It's now in pieces somewhere in the house....but at least I got software for it...I think.......

    So....been going without a halfway decent lappy now for over 10-12 years....everytime I got one....there's always a catch to it.....and I had to either give it back or see it in pieces.

    Well I figured that this time when I opened up my christmas present, would be no exception. Most every other guy who went down roads like I went down would have returned it, and told their honey Well, we'll just get someting else....Well, I can't break my wife's heart...I'm too soft...

    But at least I can go ahead and get this POS lappy in decent shape...
    and that means getting the thing into factory showroom shape.

    To patel...Yep...900 dollars IS too much to pay for an Acer Lappy. but when your wife gets it as a christmas present to you, It kinda puts you in an awkward situation. She's paying 25 a week for it...and well, I aint got the heart to give it back...I kinda like the shape of it....and plus I dont like the idea of sleeping on the couch permanently....so 900 is paying for peace, quiet, and harmony in the house....

    I may just write a song about this, and see if American Idol would audition me.....call it Laptop blues, or something.....I dunno.....

    Aaaanyway I've wrote too much already.....I kinda have that nasty habit.
    Sorry to strain your eyeballs, folks.
     
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    Naw, but thanks anyway ATG....I gotta have not only the recover partition back, but I want the partition that has Acer's version of Hp's Media direct, called "Arcade"

    and I would like to power up to that Arcade partition, using the green E button.

    but here's an idea.....Acer has for their Atheros line a 2 - DVD iso download called easy Build 8 ...can it work for me?

    But if it doesnt........then I would like to know how to make my own napp cd from the recovery DVD's that I bought from Acer.
     
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    Well, you're right....but then again....I'm kinda nitpicky....if I gotta pay 900 bucks, I want the HD in the shape i want it in.....even if I gotta chalk up 900 bucks as payment for peace, quiet, and harmony in the house, at least I want and expect a HD that isn't boogered up with stuff that keeps reminding me that I hafta be hosed for cash every week on a vista welcome screen. and No alt-f10 or recovery part, It just keeps ticking me off.....

    PLUS....I want to be able to choose what Ghost image I want to restore to....If I gotta back up....sure there's third party Acronis (I know many people here say that Acronis is good and all) BUT! I recovered two TIB.files from deletetion, only to say True image cant open them up because they say its corrupted.....plus I tried to recover rytools, only to find out that they couldnt be recovered completely either......

    I was expecting the SCD/RDVDs to restore the HD back to factory status.....well, you live and learn, I guess....

    So I either need some files that I know the SCD/RDVD's are missing....or I need a napp cd that works for my 5315....

    Yeah I know I know......Hairy Lee Says "Napp CD's are for authorized techs only, and not for public use..." Yeah. I get that.....that's why I want to make my own.....but I'm missing rytools...and I'm missing a few other things......
    (actually I kinda like his avatar.... the two fried eggs and bacon smiling off the plate....I like smiley faces in food...)

    Well, I blathered on again......sorry for the eyestrain, folks....
     
  12. paten

    paten Notebook Consultant

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    I have dumped the contents of my pqservice restore partition to disk so I can see what files are in it. I'll try to get a list of them compiled so you can see which, if any, files are not included with your Recovery disks.

    BTW: You can't really judge the worth of Acronis True Image on the basis of recovered deleted files. If you had complete files, you could probably restore with no problem. For example, I have backed up my recovery partition to .tib files and have restored it with no problems when I upgraded to a larger hard drive.
     
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    Hey thanks paten! that means a lot to me.....bless you.

    Well, The thing is I Like Ghost and Drive Image XML I like the idea that things can be backed up to *.dat files that can probably be accessed and viewed with third party tools.

    I am familliar with ghost. I have a ghost explorer. And if there is any problems with *.gho files, I can fix them. If a TIB file gets corrupted, then it is just a data form of a brick.
     
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    Okay, I made a text file of the directories and their contents of the 5315 pqservice partition. It is 350 pages long(but only 1.25megs) so I won't copy and paste it here. If someone wants to host it somewhere I'll send it to you if you can post a link to it back here.
     
  15. ATG

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    Pvt. Snafu increasing the post count with meaningless posts is not allowed. Consider this a warning. It's not so hard to make 10 useful posts around here.
    All "postcount increase" posts have been deleted.
     
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    ATG
    Hello there,

    Could you help me with restoring the PQSERVICE partition on my aspire 6920g. I wiped out my entire hdd and lost averything exept my recovery dvd's. I downloaded napp cd for acer c110 but it doesn't work. Can you explain me how to ( step by step ) restore hidden partition using napp cd, or how to edit napp cd to work with my 6920g? Please help me.
    Many, many thanks in advance.
    Best regards.
    Mack.
     
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    It took me more than a week to make C110 NAPP CD to work(mostly because the testing was done from another person, not by me. AND remotely.) so I can't possibly right a step-by-step instruction, it will be like writing a book.;) The edit was made in order the CD to work actually with a C110 tablet with dead firewire CD...anyway it's a really long story.
    I really doubt the C110 NAPP will work for Aspire 6920 unless its almost completely rewritten.

    When you put the NAPP CD where does it stop? Is there an error? If yes what is it?

    EDIT: By the way I don't think you need a NAPP CD to use the Recovery CDs on your laptop. The NAPP CD is used for older ACER models, like 3-4 years old.
     
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    It stops at the cdrom driver load, it is probably wrog one and I need somehow replace drivers but I don't know how. I'm running vista 64, but I have acces to second computer wchich has xp on.
     
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    Hey andyasselin, could you please tell me how to make my own napp cd. I have aspire 6920g, 2 recoverys dvd's and no clue how to recreate pqservice. Thanks in advance.
     
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    Yeah this was exactly the problem for which I modified the NAPP CD, it couldn't pass through the drivers installation. But the guy was using a USB CD Rom, so I loaded USB drivers on it(many times, many drivers.).

    I'd advice you not to go that way but if you want to torture yourself with it here goes:

    Caution:
    1. C110 NappCD need FAT file system, I'm pretty sure of that. So forget about NTFS. I don't know if Vista can even install on FAT, neither Vista x64.
    2. C110 NappCD is intended to reinstall XP recovery partition, in fact XP Tablet edition.
    3. C110 NappCD will NOT work for Aspire 6920 unless you know how to almost completely rewrite it.

    Instructions:
    1 You can only work with the Boot section of the CD, which is NOT visible. You cannot just go to My Computer, browse the CD then copy/modify the Boot section. You need to extract it, modify it then put it back. So you need a software that can modify ISO files. I can't remember right now which software have I used back there. I didn't touch the visible files. I could figure it out even how to open them.
    2. You have DOS skills? You need to replace and add some files, then modify the existing BATCH files(.bat). So you need to understand what batch file do what. Then you'll need to know how to actually edit batch files.
    3. You need a CD-ROM drivers to load - a DOS CD-ROM drivers to be exact. I have no idea which drivers will work for you, I used generic USB drivers, like 4 or 5 of them, until I got one who actually worked. I cannot tell you where you can find this drivers. I was trying to load USB drivers because I wanted to make an external USB CD-ROM to work.
    4. When you pass through the driver loading(eventually), you'll probably face up more problems, like freezing on loading the recovery CDs. As far as I could find out, this was partition problem. You need to have at least 1 partition created, formatted in FAT32 or FAT16 file system.
    5. You may face even more problem than me because I was modifying a C110 Napp CD in order to actually work with the C110 tablet! You're modifying it to work with Aspire 6920, which has almost nothing to do with the tablet C110.

    Once again my advice is - don't bother even trying it. You'll lose a LOT of time and I'm 90% sure it will NOT work.
     

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