Mac vs PC, need info for presentation.

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  1. Jalf

    Jalf Comrade Santa

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    Oh?

    That depends on which task you use to measure performance (Yep, that article is about the G5 rather than the OS, but if you read through it (and the followup), you'll see that the atrocious performance is due to OS X)
    OS X can also feel plenty sluggish during normal use.

    Oh really? Can I run Windows software on it? XP can run pretty much any piece of software ever written for any version of Windows or Dos. That is a lot of software, and certainly much more than has even been written for Mac's.

    Debatable. To someone who's used to Windows (roughly 95% of all users), Windows might just be easier to use... ;)

    Really? Apple has a nasty tendency of ignoring security flaws. True, no one exploits them, but that's only because there are more tempting targets.
    Microsoft constantly patches the security holes that are found. So again, depends on what kind of security we're talking about. True, OS X is based on Unix, which is, if not a good start, then certainly a better starting point than Windows. But they also have an unhealthy disregard for security patches, and a lot of their "security" image is through security by obscurity. They're "secure because they're small and present a less interesting target.

    Yep, no doubt about that.

    No, I'm not claiming PC's are better, I'm simply disputing that "Mac has distinch advantages in almost every area".
     
  2. RefinedPower

    RefinedPower Notebook Deity

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    The thing with mac and linux is that you can have more than one OS on your system. Infact you could have mac, linux and Windows on your system if you wanted. As far as security Windows simply cannot compete with mac and linux, and it is not because there are less bugs out there for them(like windows fans try to claim) but because it is just harder to write a virus for linux or mac. not to say it cannot be done, its just harder.

    As far as your performance comparison is concerned, it is a joke. you are comparing some old apple to exons and dual opterons there is no comparison. Take a look at some of the new mac pros, they are plenty fast, faster than many PCs. Now I am not a big mac fan, fact is their machines run kind hot and are a little pricey. but for video editing and graphic design, in a secure environment, you don't beat a mac.
     
  3. 0utf0xZer0

    0utf0xZer0 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I know a few Mac users who would appreciate the info... most of the softsubbed stuff I see nowadays is MKV format (occasionally the video version of OGM but it's rare), although the actual codec used can vary.

    Also, is there any way to get Quicktime to use external subtitle files (.ssa, etc.). Admitadely I use that one very rarely but it has come in handy on occasion.
     
  4. Blake

    Blake NBR Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    I think that the only reason that Mac is more secure is because, as Jalf said, there are much more tempting targets out there. How many businesses use Mac as their primary OS? Why would someone writing a virus, for malicious purposes, want to just hit ~2-3% of the computing market? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to write one for the ~95% of people using computers?

    This is all my opinion however. It just bugs when people say how much more secure and stable is than pc. I have had Macs crash under circumstances where a few year old pc of mine didn't. So stability is dependant on software and demands of the individual user.
     
  5. Budding

    Budding Notebook Virtuoso

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    Well, Mac OS X is based on UNIX, which has a much more robust kernel than Windows NT.
     
  6. RefinedPower

    RefinedPower Notebook Deity

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    I believe unix/linux has a little more than 5% of the market, I think it is around 15-20%. My dad works for Honeywell and from what I hear Linux is used for many of their servers.

    Security does seem to be a major topic when talking about macs and it is true that they have no were near the presence Microsoft has, but that is only a fraction of the reason that unix/linux is more secure. I think the main reason, for their security, is that most linux or mac users just do not want to wright viruses that will mess up their machines. Of course this will change as as macs and Linux OS' become more popular. So I guess we will have to hope that the more "robust" nature of the unix/linux kernel will protect it.
     
  7. ttupa

    ttupa Tech Elitist NBR Reviewer

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    Who sells Mac-based computers? Which company in particular? How many mac-compatible brands are there?

    Apple makes and sells Mac-based computers. PC-compatible hardware is branded and sold by hundreds of companies. As a result you see extreme innovation in case design, quality, range of use, and power. It is impossible to find that variety in Mac computers. You won't find a Toshiba, HP, or Sony computer that is Mac-based. The net result is much higher end-user cost.

    You can justify this by saying that Apple controls every aspect of the Mac life cycle. However, having other companies manufacture and sell Macs would be a pretty large benefit to Apple and to the consumer. It would generate licensing revenue for Apple while allowing the company to cut expenses. This move would also increase the range of mac-based computers.

    Apple made a bold move when it introduced Intel processors into its new line of computers. Replacing the dated Motorola G5 with a more powerful market leader in Intel allows the new Macs to do much more than the old Macs. For instance, the Macbooks can now run Windows with a sofware boot program. The fact that Apple is releasing its stiff control over Mac products shows a good trend toward compatibility and increased user acceptance.

    However, Mac computers are not Apple's main focus or profit-driver. That distinction belongs to the iPod.
     
  8. Just Mark

    Just Mark Notebook Geek

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    I'm not advocating for one OS over another, but please have your facts straight when talking about security. Any OS can be secure if you take proper security measures. The biggest threat to any computer is the operator.

    This is a good article. There are dozens that can be found with a simple search of the web.

    http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=18700097
     
  9. Just Mark

    Just Mark Notebook Geek

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  10. smalss

    smalss Notebook Consultant

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    Thnx guys you have all been great helps!
     
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