M18x US Launch Info

Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by vzachari, Apr 27, 2011.

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  1. Oldfoggie

    Oldfoggie Notebook Guru

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    Personally, I would like to have a M18x with a single 6970m GPU, 2720qm CPU, Slot Load Blu-Ray, the best screen offered and everything else at a minimum. This would set me up for going to dual 6970s when all you experts work out the bugs, and when the prices would be decent for the 6970m. I already have the extra memory and a 240Gb SSD. When the pricing comes down for the 2920xm, I could jump to it. At the moment ,from the configuration link we have, the single 6970m is not available, but i am hoping it will be on launch day. I would expect the cost would be $300 - $500 more than a M17x - R3. Just my half baked thinking.
     
  2. defac

    defac Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah a single 6970m would be perfect for me too. Currently I'm using the m17xr1 with a single 260m for my daily work in game development. A $900 upgrade is crazy -_-
     
  3. joecait

    joecait Notebook Deity

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    If offered, would you need the upgraded power supply for eventual possible 6970m crossfire?

    One reason I was thinking the SLI 460 maybe a decent option to get all the heat sinks, etc and larger PSU to start...
     
  4. hoofhearted

    hoofhearted Notebook Evangelist

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    I appreciate the comparison given (saw in another thread):
    2X GTX485m > 2X 6970M > 2X GTX460 > GTX485m > 6970m > GTX460

    And have been reading all the commentary from this community (much appreciated).

    I am really wondering if anyone can give some approx numbers to this? (Percentagewise?)

    I have an m17xr2 with crossfire 5870. I am wondering if I should wait unitl the m18x comes down in price or try to hurry and spend my tax money before it gets consumed to other things more in the wife realm. I am not really looking for a yes, no, do or don't do it decision, but rather numbers (best guess indexes that relate to performance benefit) to base, not if, but when to get it. I am guessing this price may go down in a few months or so. Maybe when Clevo, Asus, etc come out with more of their competing products, (at least I am hoping). The only numerical reference I could find was the graphic charts at Toms, but these were for desktop cards and didn't seem to consider SLI or Crossfire. Also, does going to SandyBridge up the performance for gaming?

    From Toms (gaming index)
    460M = 35
    6970 = 56
    5870 = 45

    What I would want is an approximate numerical performance index for the following:

    m17xr2 - $2760 - i7 740QM - 5870 crossfire
    m18x - $2318 - i7 2630QM - GTX 460M
    m18x - $2518 - i7 2630QM - GTX 460M sli
    m18x - $3218 - i7 2630QM - HD 6970M crossfire
    (ps: I have added other options such as blueray, intel ultimate wifi, and with the m18x, wirelesshd)
    (I upgrade RAM and HardDrive myself and plan to re-use or buy later, so not to be considered)

    Should I even consider the m18x, wait and be happy with my r2 or even opt for the Clevo x7200? (I would hate to get this and realize that my r2 has a better screen and performance is negligable for my needs and not want to sell it)

    Does i7 2820QM offer any performance advantage over i7 2630QM as far as gaming? (worth the $350 upcharge) or even the i7 2720QM? Numbers please? (somethng like 1% or 5%, less, more?)

    I am also wondering if the aluminum case is the last of the breed and Dell is going to try and go with this carbon fiber case. I really like the aluminum case.

    I saw a few comments on the current WLED screen. Is Dell planning on a new and improved screen as another option in the future? How does this one compare to the RGBLED screen of the r2? Or even 90% gamut on the clevo?

    If I decide to cheap out and just go with single or even dual 460m, can I replace with 6970 or 485m later on, or is self-upgrading GPUs a bad idea? (I know I am technically capable, just worried about ability to order parts)

    One of the main reasons I got the R2 was for the RGB screen. I see some comments about the m18x screen. Is it that much lower quality, (can't be as bad as the m17xr1, which I did have)?

    Currently, my main games are: StarCraft2 (mostly), Portal 2 (but finished), DragonAge2 & 1, Crysis 2, MassEffect 2 & 1, Oblivion, Fallout 3 & NV, Left4Dead 2, Mafia 2

    My future games will be: DukeNukemForever, The Witcher 2, Fable 2, Rage, Prey 2, Skyrim, Diablo 3, Starcraft Zerg Expansion

    Current m17xr2:
    1 224-8108 Lunar Silver - Anodized Aluminum $2537.80
    1 317-5661 Intel Core i7 740QM Quad Core Processor, 1.73GHz (2.93GHz Turbo Mode, 6M Cache) $0.00
    1 317-3664 6GB Memory (1x 2GB, 1x 4GB DDR3) $0.00
    1 330-7841 Alienware M17x 240W A/C Adapter $0.00
    1 320-8856 17-inch WideUXGA 1920 x 1200 RGB LED (1200p) $0.00
    1 320-8988 Dual 1024 MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 with ATI CrossFireX technology $0.00
    1 342-0666 250GB 7,200RPM SATA-II HDD $0.00
    1 421-1400 Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English $0.00
    1 313-8569 Slot-Loading Dual Layer Blu-ray Reader (BR-ROM, DVD+-RW, CD-RW) $0.00
    1 313-8944 5.1 Channel Audio $0.00
    1 430-3739 Intel Ultimate N WiFi Link 6300 a/g/n 3x3 MIMO Technology $0.00
    1 430-0628 Bluetooth 2.1 with EDR $0.00
    1 464-7516 DHS $50 EPP DISCOUNT MATCH $0.00

    Past m17xr1:
    1 224-5966 Red Metallic $2417.07
    1 317-0819 Intel Core2 Duo P8600 2.4GHz (3MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB) $0.00
    1 317-0856 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1066MHz 2 x 2048MB $0.00
    1 320-8140 17.0in, WUXGA,LCD,ANW,M17X $0.00
    1 320-0762 SLI Dual 1GB GDDR3 NVIDIA GeForce (NB10E-GTX1) $0.00
    1 341-0012 1TB (500GB x 2) 7,200RPM (xMB Cache) - RAID 0 $0.00
    1 421-0720 ALIENFX RED $0.00
    1 421-1400 Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English $0.00
    1 313-8977 8X DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive,QuickSilver $0.00
    1 430-3558 Internal 300Mbps Dual-Band a/g/n 2x2 MIMO $0.00
    1 430-0628 Bluetooth 2.1 with EDR $0.00
    1 461-2681 DHS 7 PERCENT EPP DISCOUNT MATCH $0.00
     
  5. Oldfoggie

    Oldfoggie Notebook Guru

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    Good question.

    1. I would think the 240 power supply would be fine for a single GPU. Of course, an upgrade to the larger PSU would be neccessary for either dual GPU setup.

    2. Will the M18x come with a different motherboard depending on which GPU manufacturer is used? If so, a choice between AMD or NVIDIA would have to be made with the original purchase.
     
  6. nobodyshero

    nobodyshero Notebook Speculator

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    Agree...I travel moderately and taking one single entity with me that is able to play all the games I want on very high is much more desireable then taking a 3 part system with me on vacation just because I want to play at max settings.

    Laptop and desktop gaming power seems to be getting blurred as consoles slow the PC game progression so might as well just consolidate. I'm still gonna wait to see if they drop the price on those cards but I also agree the xfire is a must if you're going to get this sucker ;)
     
  7. JimmyC

    JimmyC Notebook Consultant

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    The M18X config page linked to originally seems to have been removed from the site. Changes afoot?
     
  8. MaynardLD50

    MaynardLD50 Notebook Consultant

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    Link is dead.

    FIX THE CFX upgrade price dell! :p
     
  9. chewietobbacca

    chewietobbacca Notebook Evangelist

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    WAAYYY bummed out about these prices, going to have to look at AAFES or other options or I'm going to go grab a Sager

    The price of the stock config over the m17xR3 is already a huge premium, but add on the CF costs and the possibility I'll be beta testing an R1? No thanks...

    I wouldn't bet on it

    On the desktop side, I remember the node shrinks on the CPU forcing a motherboard change/"chipset update" which completely screwed up the path for people (see: 65nm to 45nm Core 2's)

    Hope so!!

    It's more like this:

    2 x GTX 485M > 2X 6970M > GTX 485M > 6970M ~= 2X GTX460 > GTX 460

    But SLI/CF depends on scaling too, in some games a single 6970M trails the 485M but in SLI vs. CF, the dual 6970M's beat the 485M in SLI due to scaling, etc.

    Either way though, the 6970M itself is roughly equivalent to GTX 460M SLI
     
  10. Conjuredevil

    Conjuredevil Notebook Geek

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    Link doesn't work anymore!

    Gives me hope :D
     
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