M18x GTX 580M SLI Throttle Fix and Software Overclocking - No vBIOS Flashing Required

Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by Mr. Fox, Nov 27, 2011.

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  1. chewbakaats58

    chewbakaats58 Notebook Evangelist

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    Not getting any failed driver messages or any messages at all..screen just goes black and then system locks up..have to hard reset. Running 314.22 drivers.
     
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    I wonder if a clean install of the video drivers would help out at all......y'know - Uninstall all Nvidia stuff, reboot into safe mode, run CClean and/or DriverSweep as admin, reboot and re-download/install.
     
  3. Mr. Fox

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    @chewbakaats58 - if you are running HWiNFO64, you may have a sensor that needs to be disabled in the configuration. If you are, try not running HWiNFO64 for a day or two and see if you still have the same issue. If the problem comes back when you start using it again, we probably need to check one of the boxes to disable a software sensor.
     
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    I do have HWiNFO64 installed, but I don't normally run it in the background. I'll double check to make sure that it does not have a service or something running that could be causing this. I did just update to the latest beta drivers that were released yesterday, but haven't had the chance to read the release notes to see if it details anything like this. I do run EVGA Precision X and the RivaTunerStatisticsServer and FRAPS in the background when running games so I can have an onscreen display monitor of temps and fps. I will try not running with those for a day or so to see if that takes care of this issue as well.
     
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    Well, for some reason...it's happening again. I havent had a throttling issue for a long while and now its back. I remember the first two times it happened, I applied this fix and of course it worked. Many months pass and it happened again..didn't think much of it and just basically ignored it since i wasnt gaming as much as usual then. Now again months later i finally find some free time and this issue just resurfaced. Playing sleeping dogs I'd have basically max settings and id get a constant 60fps. Then after about every 30-40 mins i'd throttle down to 10-12fps. I check GPU-Z and temps were low 60's and for some reason the GPU core clock was stuck at 74.5mhz or was that 76.4mhz I forgot i'll take a screenie next time.

    First thing I did was of course use the .bat files...for some reason, they dont work anymore like they did. I tried it directly through NvidiaInspector assuming something was wrong with the bat files..nada. Still not working.

    I'm pretty lost at this point. For a long while gaming moderately I never had this issue since the first 2 times it happened wayyy back. Now out of nowhere its back and cannot be stopped... currently on 320.49 drivers
     
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    It could be the drivers, brother ZombiePikmin. If you are trying to use any of the Geforce 320 series, I recommend that you stop using them. The newer drivers mess up NVIDIA Inspector, and there is a question of whether or not they cause damage to the GPU. See this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware/721878-nvidia-320-18-driver-warning.html

    Use 314.22 WHQL instead. That's what I am using and they work better overall for me than anything newer. I even tried the newest beta and it screws up NVIDIA Inspector as well.

    GPU-Z.jpg
     
  7. ZombiePikmin

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    As always, the helpful Mr.Fox never fails to help. Will definitely be giving the 314.22 WHQL a run. I'll definitely report back and let you guys know how these drivers work for me. Hopefully this does the trick.

    in case anybody else is interested in giving the 314.22's a shot:
    GeForce 314.22 WHQL Driver Download
     
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    Well, i hate to be a buzzkill but after about 12+hrs of gaming ,I can say that downgrading drivers back to 314.22 WHQL did not solve the issue...I was still getting the throttling and i dare say it happened every 15mins now as opposed to every 30-40 mins. The NvidiaInspector fix wasn't doing anything at all to prevent the throttling...even at OC clocks. Im pretty stumped at this point. I think i may just update back to the current drivers for now...in the meantime, i really want to try and downgrade my vbios..is that possible?

    edit: Actually just went through my C:/Nvidia]Display Drivers/ folder and saw all the drivers ive previously installed. I was going to install the latest again but since i know i was having issues with that it would be pointless to go back to that...so im going wayyy back on this one. The very first drivers I had 306.97 lol. Fingers crossed.

    edit 2: almost forgot the screenies:
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    Core clocks cap at 73.6 MHz (notice the huge dip). Temps at 65C.

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    This was about 5 mins into the throttle..clocks got a bit lower.
     

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    That behavior looks almost like you are running on battery instead of AC power. It seems like a silly question, but I need to ask it. You are plugged into AC power, right? Also, what do you have set in the Windows power profile for Graphics Processor states? And, NVIDIA Control Panel... are you using a global profile setting with "Maximum Performance" versus "Adaptive" instead of "Let the 3D application decide?"

    If everything is set up correctly, you may have something wrong with your GPUs. Are you still under warranty?

    As a last-ditch effort, you might try doing a clean install of Windows. Something may have gotten corrupted that is causing this.
     
  10. ZombiePikmin

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    Yes sir, definitely have my laptop plugged in. As a matter of fact, I'm sure I've never gamed on it on battery. As far as Nvidia Control panel, Ive never messed with anything there ever other than the occasional turning on SLI after it has been disabled after a gfx driver install. I also have it set on 'Let 3d application decide'.

    What really gets me is that this used to work under the same circumstances (vbios, gfx drivers, etc..)...so im starting to really think its just my GPU(s) crapping out. Oh well....its going to be time for an upgrade soon anyway. Maybe 680m SLI (like yours Mr.Fox and with the guide you provided [http://en.community.dell.com/owners-club/alienware/f/3746/t/19478915.aspx] this is most likely my route) unless I'll be able to go 780m SLI with this M18x R1. I could also use a CPU upgrade.

    Im going to keep tinkering and hopefully i come across something worthwhile or just come to a definite conclusion that my GPUs are now faulty...
     
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