M17x R3 SSD and HDD questions!

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  1. Bartlett

    Bartlett The Prophet

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    I am wondering if I should get an SSD and if I do, how I will balance that with a 750GB hard drive. My SSD will most likely be 120GB or 128GB. What files should be dedicated to the SSD? And what about TRIM and the decreased performance?

    Also, I will be getting a 320GB hard drive with my M17x, but will be using another hard drive (SSD or 750GB), so what is the best way to reinstall everything just as it was onto another hard drive? Copy the drive image?

    Thanks

    Mods if you feel this belongs in the SSD section, I guess it could go either way, please move it there.
     
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    From what I have read, imaging onto a SSD is not recommended. Do a clean install and use this thread:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...ook-feel-after-clean-install-windows-7-a.html

    If you go with SSD, make sure you disable the paging file (maybe keep a paging file on the other hard drive), defragger, and hibernation (optional - saves space). Set your drive to AHCI in BIOS BEFORE installing Win7.

    The resource CD that comes with the system is missing some stuff, so you will need to hit the dell drivers page. Namely, my CD was missing the USB 3.0 drivers and AlienFX software.
     
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    1-Move all files to external HD
    2-Reinstall windows+All applications on the SSD
    3-Copy all Media (Videos/music/Games/etc to HD)
    4-Move Games you play to SSD and change their path (there are tools for that) once you finish the game move it back to the HD

    That way you will benefit from the SSD with every Game/app/OS.
    Trim issues almost don't exist with latest SSD

    120GB will be a plenty using the method i mentioned above, i usually have 5-6Games on the SSD at the time, the rest are applications and OS (and i still get 25GB left with my 120GB Drive)
     
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    Ah I see, thanks for the link and the warning on the missing drivers.

    So you would suggest keeping all commonly used programs on the SSD. Then the games/videos/music/random files are kept on the HD and when used copy them to the SSD then change their path.

    What software do you recommend for changing their path?

    Also what about performance degradation over time?

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    Moving Pictures/music/videos to SSD is near useless because there is almost no load to reduce, i only move current played Games to the SSD, 99% of my games are from Steam so it's a matter of clicking a button to move games from one drive to the other, There is a program called "Steam Mover" which will do the job for you

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    Degradation over time take Many years before it get noticeable with decent SSD with Trim and by that time i don't think you would care about 120GB SSD (they should be much bigger/faster/cheaper after few years)

    http://lifehacker.com/#!5626931/ste...ations-to-free-up-space-on-your-primary-drive

    Using such a setup even 60GB might be enough, but i wouldn't be comfortable with only 60GB, 120GB leave a room for you in the future.
     
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    Ah that Steam app is great.

    I may go the route of an SSD and if so I will get the 120GB Intel 510.
    I'll put just programs and some games on it along with basic documents. Do you think that is worth the $300?

    I would put Videos/Photos/Music and various other things will go on the 750GB HD.


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    Dont worry about Windows 7 settings when you install the SSD. Win 7 will automatically detect the SSD and adjust itself accordingly (ie turn off defrag etc.) Also, the TRIM command will be issued automatically to the SSD, so you can just relax and sit back and do nothing. After all, this is 2011! Don't tinker with any Win 7 settings, its all done automatically.

    And yes, why not install the most played game on the SSD. No reason not to. Win 7 will take care of you and the SSD. Just relax.
     
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    Intel 510 120GB 299$ is a very solid choice, If i were to buy a new SSD today i would get it or go for C300 64GB (119$) if my budget was really low, Don't go with the Vertex Drives though, they are nice drives but have issues with the m17x
     
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    Hmm, I currently have the vertex 3 ordered but still have to wait a while before it ships. It was appealing since it claimed 500mb read/write. Intel has less read and half the write. You'd still recommend the intel 510 in that case for roughly the same price?

    Surely, somebody has gotten the vertex 3 to work somewhere.
     
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    Vertex 3 =
    - Average Speed much lower than maximum speed (in reality it's faster than intel by a little not much)
    - 120GB version is actually much slower than the 240GB Version

    Intel =
    -Average and max speed almost the same
    -More reliable, Vertex 3 already have issues with many other laptops not only m17x


    I don't know which you have ordered, if you ordered the 240GB version Vertex 3 you should keep it, the extra speed might be worth the little trouble you gotta go through to let it work but if you are buying the 120GB version I'd say cancel it and get the intel drive if i were you.

    From anantech Vertex 3 Review Conclusion:
    if you're going to be working with a lot of incompressible data (e.g. pictures, movies) on your drive then you'll want to either go for the 240GB version or perhaps consider a more traditional controller. The performance impact the 120GB sees when working with incompressible data just puts it below what I would consider the next-generation performance threshold.
     
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