M17x R3/M18x R1: Fundamentally Same System? (HM67)

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  1. vikingrinn

    vikingrinn Notebook Evangelist

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    after originally reading kunekaden's post back in march:

    M18R1A03-W64

    then looking through the owners manual:

    M18x R1 manual, page 60

    confirmed with cpu-z in the hardwareheaven.com review:

    Alienware M18x Laptop Review, page 5

    and finally making a quick overall comparison of the two systems:

    DISPLAY: M17x R3: 17.3" 1080p WLED | M18x R1: 18.4" 1080p WLED
    CPU: M17x R3: 2820QM* | M18x R1: 2920XM
    GPU: M17x R3: SINGLE dGPU w/iGPU | M18x R1: SINGLE dGPU w/iGPU/DUAL dGPU w/o iGPU
    MEMORY: M17x R3: 16GB* 1333MHz (4DIMMS) | M18x R1: 32GB 1333MHz/16GB 1600Mhz (4DIMMS)
    CASE: M17x R3: SOFT TOUCH (BLACK/RED) | M18x R1: ANODIZED ALUMINUM (BLACK/RED)
    HEIGHT (FRONT): M17x R3: 1.75" | M18x R1: 2.09"
    HEIGHT (REAR): M17x R3: 1.77" | M18x R1: 2.13”
    DEPTH: M17x R3: 11.96" | M18x R1: 12.68”
    WIDTH: M17x R3: 16.14" | M18x R1: 17.17”
    WEIGHT (STARTING): M17x R3: 9.39lbs | M18x R1: 11.93lbs
    SPEAKERS: M17x R3: 2 (KLIPSCH) | M18x R1: 2.1 (KLIPSCH)
    BATTERY: M17x R3: 9-CELL LITHIUM ION (90-WHr) | M18x R1: 12-CELL LITHIUM ION (97-WHr)
    POWER SUPPLY: M17x R3: 240W ADAPTER | M18x R1: 330W AC ADAPTER

    ALL OPTICAL DRIVES, PORTS (WITH EXCEPTION OF EXPRESSCARD ON M18x R1), KEYBOARDS (WITH EXCEPTION OF FIVE EXTRA MACRO KEYS ON M18x R1), TOUCHPADS, WIRELESS CARDS, CAMERAS, SOUND, ETC., ARE IDENTICAL OFFERINGS AT THIS TIME...

    *denotes maximum offering by alienware, but not maximum compatible component. ie: CPU: M17x R3 compatible with 2920XM, MEMORY: M17x R3 compatible with 32GB (4DIMMS) (M17x R3 manual, page 106)

    it seems that kunekaden's original observation may prove correct; these two systems are perhaps fundamentally the very same intel HM67 express chipset, and moving forward quite possibly sharing the very same insydeh2o bios...
     
  2. claxdog

    claxdog Notebook Evangelist

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    Lets see.... an extra inch of screen, two video cards ,aluminum shell,12 cell battery and 330w power supply. I think they are significantly different.
     
  3. vikingrinn

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    lol :p no mistake, that is clearly understood and pointed out in the differences listed. the point is the hardware underpinning both systems being the same (hence possibility for shared bios), which owners of both systems (especially with regards to upgrading/modifications, and any projects from unclewebb and/or TheWiz, etc.) may find nice to know in the future... ;)
     
  4. kunekaden

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    it's possible that the 17x uses a stripped down version of the bios. Only difference I see is a setting for extreme cpu and 2nd discreet GPU being reported (and support for it). Good way to save money if you ask me.
     
  5. Juanderful

    Juanderful Notebook Consultant

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    I thought HM67 chipset can't support dual-GPUs?

    Aren't the only options P67 and Z68 chipsets for M18x?
     
  6. granyte

    granyte ATI+AMD -> DAAMIT

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    it only require a custon pcie post mux just like there is on dual gpu cards only it<s integrated to the mobo and handle the 2 gpu
     
  7. FXi

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    HM67 was not supposed to support dual GPU's. So I'm curious on this. Could be a custom designed port splitter. Could be that our information on the chipset isn't correct. Both manuals and CPUz have been known to be wrong in the past on new models that aren't released yet.

    But it could also be that Intel found a way to enable sli/cf on the H67 too.

    I'm sure more research on this is forthcoming.
     
  8. kunekaden

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    True. Hardwarehaven's system only had 1 GPU (even though they scored it as if it were 2 460m's). Did any other review have dual GPU? ]
     
  9. Comrade Ynot

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    Incorrect my friend.

    The SLi Bridge had an issue, so they tested while running one gpu, when the fix came through, they retested with both gpus. They have updated their website and review with dual gpu info and scores. Feel free to check it out.
     
  10. kunekaden

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    Ah, cool
    I thought that was just a random excuse from Dell or something. Never checked back.
     
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