M15 R2 Review - Linus Tech Tips - If I could only have one computer this would be it

Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by littlezipp, Oct 7, 2019.

  1. Maxware79

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    Would they need an HDMI port? Why not force a wireless connection? Users can deal with the slight lag.
     
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    Papusan JOKEBOOKs Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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    Intel doesn’t design laptops. Maybe the notebook manufacturers should put more money in the cooling and same time stop with the yearly shrinking of chassis thickness.
     
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    old lineup atleast had some standard in design language, new ones are hybrids.. also i dont understand how company like dell alienware spends so much on RND and comes up with such bad thermal performance, out of box every high end gaming laptop should have better thermals. shame on the industry..
     
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    They could at least use some premium thermal compound. How much extra could it possibly cost them compared to the bad rep they're getting?? The first thing people do with their new machine shouldn't be stripping it down to repaste.
     
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    Agree completely. They would actually save money using a higher quality paste due to decreased returns. It’s a no brainer.
     
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    They prefer use thermal paste created for longevity, not for best thermal conductivity. Many of their customers don’t bother with 100C/thermal throttling. The pros vs cons is already calculated in and Dell know exactly what will give them lowest costs. Not all open up their machines to see how it looks like inside their notebook...

    Edit. Intel as well go for thermal paste with not the best thermal conductivity between DIE/IHS. It's all about about Longevity and cost savings.
     
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    Ahh ok. That does make some sense then.
     
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    thermal paste is just a secondary thing, if they make the chasis / heatsink / fans properly they will have much better thermal out of box, offcourse with better controls on firmwares / bios etc..
     
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    If they go cheap on thermal paste... Why should they go expencive on hardware as cooling components? Make thing better will normally result in increased costs. This doesn't fit together brother. See below...
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    I have to disagree with you. If the thermal interface between the hardware components and the heatsink is lousy, it won't matter if you have great heatsink and fans. The thermal transfer will be the limiting factor.

    Good mounting pressure, good contact and good thermal interface is what you want.

    Not a bandaid solution of slapping a big ol' pile of cheap thermalpaste to try and make up for all of the above.
     
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