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m11xR2 calibrated LCD ICC profile

Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by slickie88, Jun 18, 2010.

  1. slickie88

    slickie88 Master of Puppets

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    01.01.2011 - New profile added (attached below). This profile was created after 6 months of heavy daily use. For those of you with AUO panels that have similar mileage on them you might find that this profile is a slight improvement. Give both a try.

    Updated ICC installation and configuration procedure

    A little background is in order to explain why the following procedure is necessary in order to have a calibrated ICC profile work properly in Windows 7.

    There are a huge number of events that will reset your video card's gamma LUT in Windows 7 (and Vista).

    • a reboot
    • waking from sleep
    • logging in after the system has been locked
    • the UAC prompt
    • running Media Center, or XBMC and Boxee
    • starting a game
    • etc., etc...
    So now you have a better understanding of the problem let us look at the fix for the M11x.

    First off calibrate your display. If you or someone you know owns or has access to a colorimeter that's going provide you a much more accurate calibration than a software based calibration tool. If you don't have access to a colorimeter then the Display Color Calibration wizard in Windows 7 should provide you with a decent improvement over an uncalibrated display.

    For those of you with and R2 and the AUO panel, you can try out the profile I've provided here. It was produced with the X-Rite i1 Display 2.

    ## This procedure does not apply for those of you who use the color and gamma settings in the Intel Graphics Properties to get the results you like, as that method of adjustment does not involve an ICC profile. That method of adjusting color is a reference-less means of eyeballing it.##

    Procedure for installing the ICC profile:



    1. Download and unpack the attached profile to a temporary folder
    2. Copy the ICC profile to C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color

    Procedure for configuring an ICC profile:


    1. Click the Start button
    2. Type "color" and open Color Management
    3. Go to the Advanced tab at the top and click the Change system defaults button
    4. Make sure the Device dropdown list has Intel(R) HD Graphics selected and check the "Use me settings for this device" box
    5. Click the Add button
    6. Scroll down to ICC profiles and locate the m11xR2_xx-xx-xxx.icc profile
    7. The profile is now set as the default ICC profile for the Intel HD Graphics adapter
    8. Go to the Advanced tab
    9. Check the "Use Windows display calibration" check box
    10. Click the Close button
    11. Click the Close button again

    Almost there!

    The last thing we need to do is to disable the Intel Persistence Module (igfxpers.exe) from loading. You can do this through msconfig, Autoruns, CCleaner or any other utility that disables startup items. This has no negative impact on your IGP that I'm aware of. I've been running without it for months without any loss of functionality on my system. Each time you update drivers for the Intel HD IGP you will need to do this step again.

    The key I'd been missing was step 9. The last step of disabling igfxpers.exe is something unique to Intel adapters though.

    That's it. I can't tell you how frustrating it is to fire up XBMC or a game to have your calibrated output suddenly reset. The procedure I've outlined here solves this problem for good on the R2. No more over-saturated skin tones making people look like they've fallen asleep in a tanning booth. No more grays with color casts.
     

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  2. YodaGoneMad

    YodaGoneMad Notebook Deity

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    Did you do this while on the 335? Or does the R2 not go through a noticeable change from integrated to dedicated?

    Wonder if this would be good on the R1, would love to have better colors on my R1.

    Also, thanks a ton, that is a $200 device you used, and this is really pretty valuable for image quality.
     
  3. slickie88

    slickie88 Master of Puppets

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    Given that I can't force the 335 to activate on the R2 (that I'm aware of) I'm not sure how I'm going to get its output calibrated. REALLY wish R2 had a manual switch...

    Give it a try on your R1, although I'm pretty sure I saw one floating around here for the R1 already.
     
  4. DrGoodvibes

    DrGoodvibes Notebook Deity

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    I downloaded and used the one calibrated on an M11xR1 and it works OK, however it may need to be developed a bit more to give the best coverage on both discrete and integrated graphics. Also HDMI and DisplayPort seem to have there own idea about the colour display depending on the device you're connecting to.
    I have another ICC profile for my external Dell IPS monitor.

    Previous M11xR1 ICC Profile follows:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...monitor-icc-color-profiles-windows-linux.html
     
  5. ninja2000

    ninja2000 Notebook Deity

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    Also it may be worth noting what panel you have? There is at least two in circulation with different colour characteristics in the m11x r1 and we dont know what has been used in r2 yet. What panel did you get slickie?
     
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    duckwing89 Notebook Guru

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    how do you know which LCD one you have? which one is considered better?
     
  7. nosoupforu28

    nosoupforu28 Notebook Guru

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    Thanks for the info Slickie!
     
  8. Simonnim916

    Simonnim916 Newbie

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    I applied the icc profile. But I am noticing a blue tint like image still.
     
  9. vengance_01

    vengance_01 Notebook Deity

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    I applied this profile as well, but I don't think I see any differences. Still a Blue tint. I have an R2 and the AUO panel.
     
  10. tassadar898

    tassadar898 Notebook Evangelist

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    me too annyoing
     
  11. M11Ash

    M11Ash Notebook Evangelist

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    As the 335M outputs through the intel intergrated GPU, will it make any differance colour wise on the display? I imagine one profile 'would fit all' in the R2's case
     
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    Neil McRae Notebook Evangelist

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    if you made explorer.exe a gpu program in the nvidia options would that not fire up when you boot up into windows?
     
  13. slickie88

    slickie88 Master of Puppets

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    You can thank Microsoft for ignoring a major bug in how profiles are applied to Vista/7. There are a huge number of events - reboot, sleep, unlocking, UAC prompt, etc. - that will reset your video card's gamma LUT.

    Windows Vista's Gamma Table Bug — The NeoSmart Files

    First, you need to make sure you're applying the ICC profile to the Intel adpater properly.

    • Copy the ICC profile to C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color
    • Click the Start button
    • type "color" and open Color Management
    • Make sure Device is Intel(R) HD Graphics and check "Use me settings for this device"
    • Click the Add button
    • Scroll down to ICC profiles and locate m11xR2_xx-xx-xxx.icc
    • Highlight the newly added profile and click the Set as Default Profile button
    • Go to the Advanced tab at the top and click the Change system defaults button
    • An identical looking color management window pops up and again, you'll want to add/select the m11xR2 profile for the Intel and set it to Default Profile
    • Close everything out

    Don't ask me why MS made setting up profiles to ridiculously obtuse. Now having done all of that, you're still going to have deal with the bug I mentioned earlier. It's a pain in the arse.

    The work around that I've been using is to setup a scheduled task that reapplies calibration at logon, on connection to user session, and on unlock of any user.

    • Start
    • type Task and open Task Scheduler
    • On left hand pane navigate to Task Scheduler Library > Microsoft > Windows > WindowsColorSystem
    • Add whatever addition triggers you like there.
    Some people have it run at an interval. Once you start to see just how many things unload the gamma LUT table you'll probably get tired of the whole process, but if you're like me and need accurate color rendition (or at least as close as you can get on the M11x's tiny gamut panel) then you'll just have to put up with it.
     
  14. vengance_01

    vengance_01 Notebook Deity

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    Can you share what the values were for red,blue,green, and the contrast, brightness, and gamma. I think it will be better if we just apply these settings in the Intel settings. Every time I apply your profile, something manages to change it back. I want to get rid of this very annoying blue tint.
     
  15. slickie88

    slickie88 Master of Puppets

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    The icc profile generated by a colorimeter is a lot more involved and accurate than the simple RGB and gamma settings you find in drivers. There are no correlating values I can give you.

    Give the built-in monitor calibration a go. It should get you a better than nothing result.
     
  16. tassadar898

    tassadar898 Notebook Evangelist

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    the new LCD i got replaced was much better in quality, had no blue tint but the damn thing is unaligned and sits the keyboard so bad it doesnt even rest on the those little rubber bumpers to the right and left of the trackpad. Oh well.. i even took my comp apart and lifted up the LCD and rescrewed it in but it didnt help.
     
  17. slickie88

    slickie88 Master of Puppets

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    Wow. Call Dell back and tell them it's still not right. Take pictures and provide those to them. If it's not sitting on rubber bumpers then you're very likely going to have issues with the hinges again. Do whatever you can to push for an outright replacement of laptop.

    There are a couple of different panels that they use in the m11x. My guess is that you now have an AUO105C. You can check by doing the following:

    • Device manager > Monitors > Generic PnP Monitor
    • Right click > Properties > Details tab, and select the "Hardware Ids" property.

    The other panel that's been reported is a SEC5441. The differences are:

    SEC5441:

    Maximum: 193.4 cd/m²
    Average: 172.5 cd/m²
    Illumination: 78 %
    Black: 1.56 cd/m²
    Contrast: 124:1

    AUO105C:

    Maximum: 175.6 cd/m²
    Average: 157.5 cd/m²
    Illumination: 80 %
    Black: 0.81 cd/m²
    Contrast: 217:1
     
  18. vengance_01

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    Well I got the profile active, but anytime a game is launched, its reverts back to the ugly blue tint profile. Anyway we can force this to stick when launching a game?
     
  19. vengance_01

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    Going to bump this. Anyone find a solution for this?
     
  20. slickie88

    slickie88 Master of Puppets

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    I explained that there are a whole lot of events that can cause the card's gamma LUT to be reset. This is what you're seeing when games run games or you run certain media players. There is no proper solution, only workarounds such as the scheduled task I've outlined above.

    Lots of info on this out there. Until Microsoft fixes it, it's just something you have to deal with.
     

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