Looking to buy a car... need suggestions.

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  1. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    In general, absolutely (case in point, my Toyota and me Madres; never had a moment's trouble with them yet). They weren't lemons, not by a long shot (cause it would have been 6 different lemons!). And it wasn't like each Lexus was one blunder after another. It was always the little things which acted up. It just seemed like we fixed a fault on one and then another one comes in with a minor problem. It all adds up after a while. Nothing major ever went wrong with them. It's funny you started with a $25k budget and are now way past that. Sounds like me with my first car. :thumbsup: It worries me when you say you'd do dirty things to an S5...

    4 different Lexus models over 6 different model years (2 were traded up for newer models). I am not a Lexus specialist, but I have worked on them enough to formulate my own opinion of their quality and driveability without someone telling me I don't know what I'm talking about. I only offer the experiences I have maintaining a group of Lexuses and the research (and test drives) I did on the Audi when I considered purchasing ones. I do not offer the opinion of EVERYONE else in the automotive world because no one person speaks for every mechanic, engineer and driver. I also do not assume Lexus will ALWAYS be more reliable than Audi, and Audi will ALWAYS handle better than the Lexus. If the OP had asked for a recommendation for a pickup truck, I would recommend a Nissan or Toyota because those are what my Dad and I drive. It has nothing to do with expertise, just my opinion that those are reliable pickups based on mine and my Dad's current experiences with them. My opinions about Lexuses arise from my experience as a mechanic and having maintained several of them for a number of years. So please do not shred my opinions down because they don't agree with your own. I would not so the same to yours.
     
  2. PatchySan

    PatchySan Om Noms Kit Kat

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    I agree with houstoned on the RX handling, I driven my colleagues RX and the steering felt "elastic" if that's the correct term. The artificial assisted steering didn't inspire me going round bends at speed but to be fair it is comfortable and refined (especially setting off in silence which is eery for a car).

    To be honest I was kind of disappointed with the Porsche Cayenne we had due to the mushy pedals, the brakes in particular didn't felt as sharp as I expected it to be from a Porsche, it also had some input lag with the accelerator pedal. The BMW X6 x30d was the most sporty I driven for a car of its size but it wasn't that comfortable to be in for long journeys (especially at the back). Plus it costed a bomb to run that thing, even though it was a diesel we still had to fork out £120 ($182) a week to fill the tank which made our wallets cry.

    @AmazingGracePlayer - Audi A5 is a lovely car, the S5 is even more nicer. If I was in the market for a coupe I would have a hard time choosing between the Audi A5 or the upcoming BMW 4 Series as both of them is purty in my eyes.
     
  3. houstoned

    houstoned Yoga Pants Connoisseur.

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    i've had a couple of friends with regular Cayennes and some with the Turbo models. they're 2 completely different vehicles. first time i took a ride in my buddy's 800+ HP Cayenne Turbo...i was like whoa. that's the only thing i could think of because of how mind bottled i was. for something THAT heavy to move like that...i was just at awe.

    same goes for the V8 or ///M X5's. the base/V6 models are alot tamer.

    @radji: i'm not "shredding" your opinion. i'm simply stating that they're not correct. this is not a matter of my "opinion" or "bias". in this case, the numbers do not lie. please don't feel offended by my bluntness.

    i'm not looking down on u in any way, shape, or form. to me, u just sound a little young and inexperienced, but that's not a bad thing at all. u should feel proud, and privileged, to have gotten the chance to be around finer vehicles because alot of people don't even get to do that. that's good that u seem to have a liking to cars because u'll have much room to grow.

    also, Lexus' reliability being better than Audi's is simply a fact. it always has been and still is to this date. Lexus is the most reliable, and has the least maintenance costs during ownership of all the luxury car brands. it's just a fact. there's a reason why Lexus' resale value is MUCH better than the Euro-brands.
     
  4. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    If there's one thing I've learned, it's opinions can't be wrong, only disagreed with.

    But I get what you're saying. Young yes, but definitely not inexperienced. I still think the Lexus SUV's handle better than any of the other SUV's I've driven (Ford, Chevrolet, Toyota to name a few). But again, that's my opinion.

    You all shouldn't confuse maintenance intensive with reliability or overall maintenance cost. For example, the Volvo construction equipment I worked on had maintenance intensive engines. Specifically, the oil changes had to be done at 100 hours as opposed to Caterpillar engine's 160 hours. And the fuel and air filters had to be replaced every 50 hours of operation whereas the Cat engines I worked on the air and fuel filters were meant to last between each oil change (160 hours). The trade off was the Volvo oil, air and fuel filters were smaller in size than the Cat ones. And the Volvo engines by design got WAY better fuel economy than the same sized Caterpillar ones. Didn't mean the Volvo engines were less reliable, or the Cat engines cost less in maintenance than the Volvos (well, maybe in man-hours). We had the same scenario with the Lexuses. They weren't being driven more than any of the pickups in the fleet, we were recommended to service them more often (every 2500 miles compared to the pickups which were every 4000 miles...dealer's instructions). Plus all the small things that seemed to go wrong like a windshield wiper motor one week, then a defective rear taillight bulb socket the next week. Not expensive nor having anything to do with reliability (when compared to replacing the turbo on a Ford F-350 twice in the same week), just makes it tedious to maintain.
     
  5. Syndrome

    Syndrome Torque Matters

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    Clearly you've lived under a rock your entire life. Sounds like you've never met an idiot before. ;) :p
     
  6. radji

    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    Not true, I live with three of them. I just never learned their dialect. I even wear a shirt with said warning:

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  7. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    I am confused about what you want in a car. Handling > Power, want good steering yet the 2 cars you want to test S4 and E550 have neither. Benz traction control is also terrible nor can you turn it off. I wouldn't touch Audi unless you like your car in the shops in the time. An older 5 series BMW might be your best fit or a Lexus. Don't know why you don't want any Japanese car, you are ruling out a lot of cars and are the most reliable.
     
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    Convel Notebook Deity

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    Probably has to do with how the interior in Japanese cars tend to be a bit more 'plain' than, say, German cars. In addition, non-Japanese cars are more frequently targeted at people wanting comfort over a sporty feel to the suspension and responsive steering. That's what I assume the OP meant when he said he wanted more luxury anyway. I'd rather judge the individual cars than rule out an entire country of manufacture but we all have our priorities.
     
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    NEW CAR NEW TOPIC!

    I want to spend as little as possible on a manual car so I can learn to drive it, and learn some car mechanics while fixing its many inevitable problems. I also want to drive it around for fun over the weekend (convertible two seater preferred). Any recommendations? I am currently looking at Mazda MX-5's.
     
  10. DDDenniZZZ

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    MX5? MR2? S2000 maybe. A mini if your bold enough to drive it if you want a bit of fun.
     
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