[Liquid Metal & Traditional Paste] - Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172)

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What is your Liquid Metal of choice?

  1. Grizzly Conductonaut - 73 W/mk

    19 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra - 38.4 W/mk

    17 vote(s)
    44.7%
  3. Coollaboratory Liquid Pro - 32.6 W/mk

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    5.3%
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  1. iunlock

    iunlock 9900K @ 5.5GHz

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    Thermal Paste Complete: Mandatory. Not an Option. :)
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    * Don't mind the MX4 LOL that was just left over from something... How about that toothpaste that is rated at 401w/mk...which happens to be the thermal conductivity of copper.

    Greetings,

    I will be repasting the P775DM3 very soon and will be posting up the results w/ a lot of pictures for your entertainment. My liquid metal paste of choice will be Grizzly Conductonaut, however, I'll be experimenting with other pastes as well to satisfy any curiosity as to if one can get by with just traditional paste. (Highly doubtful, but I am curious about GC.)

    Traditional paste wise, I have a feeling that GELid will hold up pretty well.

    While I'm at it, I'll also be replacing the thermal pads. Depending on how warped the heat sink is, I have pressure paper handy to be able to test the contacts of the die and IHS against the Heat Sink. If needed, I have copper shims standing by of varies sizes from 0.1mm to 0.3mm+
    ...

    Below are the conductivity numbers for the top Liquid Metals and Traditional Paste:
    (As we know the numbers don't mean everything, however, from all my tests done so far, Grizzly Conductonaut has always topped CLLU by an average of ~3C. Results may vary. However, because I am repasting, every drop in C's count. It could make all the difference in some scenarios. To each his own...)

    Liquid Metals:
    Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut - 73 W/mk
    Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra - 38.4 W/mk
    Coollaboratory Liquid Pro - 32.6 W/mk

    Traditional Paste:
    Gelid GC Extreme: 8.5 W/mk
    Grizzly Kyronaut: 12.5 W/mk
    ICD: 4.5 W/mk

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    Project 775:
    (9/22/16)
    The Repaste and Delid are now complete. I've been gathering temp data non stop, along with fine tuning the machine to find where it is the happiest. The temps have been amazing and I'll be posting up a full review shortly. -

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    Please post your results using the format below in order to keep things uniform and organized:

    >>> Before repasting, please run the benches and record your temps for a base. <<<

    >>> Please BOLD the answers as show below. <<<


    Application List:
    (Click below to Download.)


    1. HWiNFO64
    2. OCCT
    3. wPrime 2.10

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    Machine Specs:
    FROM: Hansung Computer Notebooks [한성컴퓨터 노트북] EX76S BOSSMONSTER [775DM3]
    CPU: 6700K
    GPU: GTX 1080
    Display: 4K w/ GSYNC

    Thermal Paste: Grizzly Conductonaut
    Delidded: Yes. TGC on IHS->die and IHS->HS

    Run OCCT for 30 Minutes on Stock Clocks.

    CPU Max Temp (Stock Fan Profile): 67C
    CPU Max Temp (F1 Fan Profile): 57C
    CPU Under Volt: -225mv Core / -225mv Cache

    Run Unigine Heaven -> Fully Maxed @ 1920x1080, Back to Back to Back.

    First Run GPU Temp: 69C
    Second Run GPU Temp: 72C
    Third Run GPU Temp: 75C
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    ---> Please Post your screen shots here of HWiNFO64, OCCT, Unigine Heaven and wPrime. <<<

    ___"HWiNFO64 Stock Clocks/Base Screen Shot."___

    ___"Unigine Heaven Screen Shot."___

    ___"wPrime Screen Shot."___

    ___"HWiNFO64 Over-Clocked Screen Shot."___

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    Thanks to: @Mobius 1 for being my wing man.
     

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  2. iunlock

    iunlock 9900K @ 5.5GHz

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    Project Delid 775

    The best thing since sliced bread. Rockit 88 Delid Tool.

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    Done. It literally takes seconds. No more razer and/or vice method...

    Why you should Delid...If you look closely you can see that it has been cooking inside. Burn marks...

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    P775DM3 Thermal Pad Size Chart:


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  3. iunlock

    iunlock 9900K @ 5.5GHz

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    Repaste Complete: 9/22/16
    • Delidded w/ Grizzly Conductonaut on (die->IHS)
    • Grizzly Conductonaut on (IHS->Heat Sink)
    • Grizzly Conductonaut on GPU

    Stock Clocks w/ -200mv Under Volt on both Core and Cache + F1 Fan ON:

    OCCT Running for ~20 Minutes:

    CPU Max:
    • Core #0: 40C
    • Core #1: 41C
    • Core #2: 39C
    • Core #3: 39C
    Room Ambient Temp: 23.2C

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    How much does the F1 TURBO FAN MODE make a difference?

    OCCT Test:

    Delidded + Repasted w/ Grizzly Conductonaut on both CPU and GPU


    Stock Clocks @ -225mv (Core & Cache)

    F1 TURBO BOOSTERS vs STOCK FAN PROFILE

    • Core #0: 57C vs Core #0: 68C -- 11C
    • Core #1: 56C vs Core #1: 67C -- 11C
    • Core #2: 57C vs Core #2: 67C -- 10C
    • Core #3: 53C vs Core #3: 63C -- 10C
    As you can see the Temp difference is on the dot to a "T".

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    OCCT Test for 1 Hour at Stock Clocks UV to -225mv on Core and Cache + Stock Fan Profile

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    * I've purposely entered a lot of keywords for the "Search" functions sake for future seekers.
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    Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172)

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  4. Xileforce

    Xileforce Notebook Evangelist

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    Excited to see the results. Currently debating what to use for my repaste once my laptop shows up. I've heard the liquid metal outperforms normal pastes but seen varying reports of how much.

    Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk
     
  5. iunlock

    iunlock 9900K @ 5.5GHz

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    In my opinion, these power house of beasts shall see nothing but Liquid Metal. It's clear that even with ICD (which I'm not a fan of) the temps are terrible. Granted it could be many factors including the warped heat sinks, not making proper contact with the die and IHS, but still...unacceptable. This leads me to believe that traditional paste should be skipped all together.

    The difference between liquid metal and traditional paste is significant. More so in that we're dancing in extreme territories with temps, therefore, every C counts so I'll take any temp drop that I can get.
     
  6. bloodhawk

    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    Himalaya Tooth paste , best paste.
     
  7. iunlock

    iunlock 9900K @ 5.5GHz

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    Organic makes it even better.

    Is it me or are you too surprised that these companies have the wits to be shipping these beasts out with traditional paste? I just don't get it...it baffles me...

    However, I'm sure the majority of the people who buy these machines plan to repaste anyway, so in that case I get it....why waste the money on thermal paste when it's going to be wiped right off anyway...

    But what about those that just want to have a nice performing car from out of the gate? (My answer: I don't think they should be buying these then...:p)
     
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    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    Oh hell yeah man. I am originally from India, and that is the only toothpaste that actually helped with my super sensitive teeth.

    Personally im not surprised anymore, with the way things are with this whole industry.
     
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  9. iunlock

    iunlock 9900K @ 5.5GHz

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    I think the companies should let it be known and be more up front about it.

    Notice:
    "These machines are for enthusiasts and will be shipped with toothpaste for the purpose of adding a protective layer between the heat sink and IHS / die for transit. It is required that you repaste with a paste of your choice."

    ROFL
     
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  10. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    You pretty much answered your own question there. They use junk paste anyway.. It's probably cheaper than toothpaste.

    First thing I'll be doing is inspecting the paste spread to see what kind of Heatsink I have.
     
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