Lenovo X200 tablet screen (confused)

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  1. maratus

    maratus Notebook Consultant

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    Hello everyone.

    I'm looking for a portable notebook with good display for working with photos on the go. Screen size isn't that important, but quality is. Now I'm using mid-2009 Macbook Pro 15" with 1440x900 LED anti-glare matte screen (TN panel). While its constrast and brightness are good enough for my needs I'm a bit dissapointed with viewing angles.

    X200t has one of the best screens on the market according to recent tabook and this forum. So here're my questions:

    0) Are there any guys who bought X200t mainly because of display quality?
    0a) Are you satisfied with performance, build quality and portability (battery life, weight, thickness)?

    1) What alternatives to X200t with comparable screen quality can you recommend (up to 15")?
    2) How good are displays available for X200t compared to other laptops (IBM, Lenovo, Dell, Apple, Sony, HP etc.)?
    3) Which display option would you recommend and why? (viewing angle, color accuracy after calibration, contrast and brightness are very important)
    4) Does it have 3Gbs Sata II or 1.5Gbs Sata?

    5) Why only tablets get better screens? Is it really that big deal to put high quality display in X200s or X301?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. surfasb

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    I have heard of people buying the X200T due to the Outdoor readable display. , which are much much brighter than comparable laptop displays. I personally have one because it is a tablet.

    It is the most capable tablet for its price range IMO.

    There are a few other tablets out there with comparable displays. Motion computing, Fujitsu, Panasonic (I think), and Dell all have comparable displays.

    As far as regular laptops, I personally haven't seen one that compares. I'll defer to those with better first hand experience.

    Similar to the question above huh?
    Depends on your usage needs. If all the above is important, I suggest you save your money, buy a T400. If you regularly use your laptop in the sunlight, then get the X200T.

    3GB Sata II

    Tablets don't necessarily get better screens. They do get brighter screens as their users are more likely to use them in situations where overhead glare is more common. When a tabletPC is in slate mode, overhead lighting becomes a bigger factor, thus the screen needs to be bright enough to combat this. Plus their form factor is attractive to those who work outside, so it also needs to combat sunlight.
     
  3. maratus

    maratus Notebook Consultant

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    So you're saying that T400 display is of higher quality than in X200t? Does it really has better viewing angles and contrast? Now I'm confused even more because I read T400 to have "crappy" screen (It's still TN!!) I thought X200t uses non-TN display and from my (though limited) experience IPS and even PVA panel are considerably better.

    Some says X200t has IPS display (which is listed in Tabook almost everywhere) and I read that thread with arguing about whether it is mistake or not. Anyway, I'm interested in X200 as ultimate portable screen because I can't carry 24" IPS panel all day long :D
     
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    Ooops. I meant to buy a non-tablet and get a good external display with the T400 comment.

    I'm not familiar with exactly what kind of displays the X200 tablet line uses, but it does have better viewing angles than other laptops in general.
     
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    I think tablets DO necessarily get better screens. It's necessary because of the way tablets are used. I mean, no one writes on a notepad by looking at the paper at a 90 degree angle by putting their head right above the pad; people write on tablets in the same way they naturally write on paper, i.e. by having it off-centre to their writing hand side and looking at the screen at quite an extreme angle. Also, the fact that most TN screens have barely acceptable horizontal viewing angles and abysmal vertical viewing angles (which compounds the tablet problem as the tablet will usually be reoriented into portrait) necessitates a better-than-basic screen for tablets.

    For your other questions, OP, I've read some users on this forum say that the screen in the X200 tablet might be S-PVA if not IPS. Also, one user has purchased the tablet mainly for the screen but has been disappointed by the graininess it has due to one of or all of the digitizer/multi-touch/anti-glare coating.
     
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    Ah point taken. And welcome to the forums.
     
  7. maratus

    maratus Notebook Consultant

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    I'd like to have both high quality built-in display and external one :D

    Yes, I'm worrying about this as well.

    I have one very important question - does X200t without 2-finger multitouch (i.e. only digitizer) have same graininess as X200t with 2-finger multitouch?
     
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    Thanks for the welcome! I've just signed up since I've realised that this is THE place to be for notebooks and the like but I've been lurking for a while now.

    BTW, on second thought, I must admit that while the Lenovo X200t, Dell XT2, HP 2730p and other business/premium models should have a better than usual screen, the recent trend of netbook tablets and perhaps even HP's consumer tablet line pokes holes in the rationale I gave for the need for better screens as a non-TN screen will no doubt be more expensive than most consumers care to pay.



    I haven't had the chance to compare both side-by-side. All I can say is that I have an X200t without any multitouch and I have a screen protector put on it which effectively made it as glossy as my MacBook Pro's screen. In day-to-day use the thought of graininess never crossed my mind despite using a MacBook Pro as frequently too. BUT I just might not be as discerning as you are. I bought my X200t just because it was a tablet (and a Lenovo), just like surfasb did.
     
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    AFAIK, the X200T with multitouch is not available in the brighter Outdoor viewable screen. You'll need to get a Dell XT2 to get the Multitouch/Outdoor viewable screen combo.

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    Where is John the Tablet Phenom when you need him.....
     
  10. maratus

    maratus Notebook Consultant

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    I don't need multitouch and don't want to pay for it either. I'd rather get 4Gb of RAM or better SSD or SL9600 instead of SL9400 (bragging rights FTW!!!).

    Dell XT2 doesn't attract me as much as lenovo due to SU9400 instead of SL. I do some CPU intensive things (like RAW-converter, Comsol and other stuff) on the go :D


    P.S. What type of screen is in XT2? Is it IPS or what?
     
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