Lenovo P53 - Xeon vs i9 - RTX4000 vs RTX5000

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  1. Gudi

    Gudi Notebook Consultant

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    Hi everyone

    I'm very excited on the new P53. I've been away 3 years from Lenovo, 3 years to long. It should now result in a 6 times faster GPU and about twice the CPU performance - wow! ;)

    I was first looking into the new Lenovo P1 Gen 2, as it compares the best to my current Dell Precision 5510. However, I need power over weight/size today, but still a laptop. And it is only offers i7 and T2000 to my knowledge.

    I'm moving away from 4K displays, I have to many scaling issues as I dock/undock a lot. Also to much remote desktop and different IT administration needed applications keeps giving me an head egg. I must say though, that the new 1000000:1 contrast ratio on the 4K OLED is sick!!

    The models still cant be customized or ordered in Denmark, so I hoped to use the time to figure out the perfect configuration.

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    http://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad P53/ThinkPad_P53_Platform_Specifications.pdf

    The RTX5000 has 16GB - and not 6GB GDDR6 as shown above.

    They now offer different models in the US.
    https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-p/P53/p/22WS2WPWP53

    The "easy choice" is ALL-IN (Xeon, RTX5000). But it might not be the wisest.

    I need a power horse for Photoshop and Premiere. My initial thought was RTX4000 and i9, but maybe the RTX 5000 16 GB memory will raise performance much more? I haven't considered the RTX 3000.
    I kinda like the lower CPU speed on the i9 at 2,3GHz "in idle" rather than the Xeon 2,8 GHz. Maybe this give a better battery span. Also, it might just be faster - but does it throttle?

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    So to sum it up - best setup for Adobe Photoshop and Premiere
    • i9-9880H vs Xeon E-2276M
    • Does the i9 Throttle?
    • RTX4000 vs RTX5000 (battery, heat vs actual performance)
    • Does anyone know the exact model of the 1TB Solid State Drive PCIe-NVME OPAL2.0 M.2

    Hope for some input and a good chat about the new P53 ;)
     
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  2. Wade Zack

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    I would choose i9 with Quadro 4000
     
  3. Eclipse2016

    Eclipse2016 Notebook Geek

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    Please resist being swayed by the Thinkpad allure. :) I was swayed with the P51 and it turned out to be the worst computer I have ever owned (I've owned computers going back to the Commodore 64). My advice would be to stick with Dell or HP workstations. Go and read through the Lenovo Thinkpad P forum. If you are still set on a Lenovo workstation buy it 6 months to a year after release when most of the BSOD bugs are worked out, hopefully.

    There is a review of the pre-production P53 online and, typical of all past P5x series, it throttles heavily. The RTX5000 (max Q) that they tested did not have the performance they expected. They hoped that Lenovo would tweak it before release. Good luck with that.
     
  4. Wade Zack

    Wade Zack Newbie

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    Really? I am hesitant I would like to buy a Thinkpad P53 this BlackFriday. It would be 2000 dollars for intel i9 quadro 4000 4k 500nits screen (If Lenovo discounts like last BlackFriday). I am quite sure p53 is the cheapest in the three mobile workstations.
     
  5. Eclipse2016

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  6. improwise

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    And as always it's worth mentioning that you can run a 4K screen at 1080 resolution instead and have the best of both worlds (4K panels are often better quality). Have done it for many years now.
     
  7. Gudi

    Gudi Notebook Consultant

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    Thank you for the link. I'll dive right into it - I wonder how I missed this review. Thanks!

    Before I've had HP W-series and Lenovo T- series like T420s. We have had many different laptops at work, and we have back and forth between HP and Lenovo - mainly based on a price/spec point of view.

    Today we're leaning heavily toward Lenovo, and if possible using mechanical Docks over Thunderbolt docks. Guess we have +25 employees on laptops out of +200 employees.

    I had a TON of issues with my Dell Precision 5510 for more than 1½ years. I bought it the second it came out, and that was a big mistake :(.
    USB ports, netcard, bluetooth, bsod, touchpad and other issues - and the Dell TB15 dock was swapped after months of use to an updated version. And I've always had to keep an eye on firmware updates for the dock, as this TB dock has been a nightmare. BIOS updated have been released to fix one issues but case something that they previously had been fixed. So my personal experience with this model is very poor. And trust me, I've used day in and day out to try and make it performance somewhat to what the specs should be able to.

    As for any monitor it should be run at it's optimal resolution, what it was build for, I would therefore never run a 4k at 1080 but rather use scaling. I know it's a Microsoft scaling issue that ruins the compatibility with so many software's, or well, bad software that don't support proper scaling.
     
  8. Eclipse2016

    Eclipse2016 Notebook Geek

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    I sincerely empathize with what you have gone through. Having a workstation be a source of headaches and frustration after spending thousands of dollars is not cool at all. After the M6xxx/M4xxx series I don't know what on earth is going on with Dell's Precision line. I used the M6xxx series for years and they were rock solid, then the 5xxx/7xxx series came along.... Just reading through the Dell Precision thread on this forum made me switch from Dell. That being said, the problems I read about on the Dell forums paled in comparison to what I experienced and what I read about on the Lenovo P forums. :p Granted, the Lenovo P workstation forum has calmed down quite a bit now from the screams of irate customers - surely a good sign.
     
  9. Gudi

    Gudi Notebook Consultant

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    Am I the only one who would have loved 10G NIC cards in these machines. With the speed of these machines, the bottleneck is for sure the gigabit network speed. I know it has TB3, but then you would need a TB3 to NIC adapter.
     
  10. Don Patrone

    Don Patrone Notebook Enthusiast

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    A Question

    Is this the RTX 5000 (Mobile) or the Max-Q in the Workstation Notebooks.
     
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