Lenovo Legion Y740 17" 15"

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  1. victorgm

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    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenov...0H-RTX-2070-Max-Q-Laptop-Review.413926.0.html
    Y740-15 i7-8750H RTX 2070 Max-Q very good - 88%

    https://laptopmedia.com/review/lenovo-legion-y740-review-a-refresh-with-ray-tracing-capabilities/
    Y740-15 i7-8750H RTX 2060 Editor's choice

    https://gamerdad.ca/reviews/lenovo-legion-y740-15-review/
    Y740-15 i7-8750H RTX 2070 Max-Q
    https://gamerdad.ca/reviews/rtx-2060-vs-rtx-2070-max-q/

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenov...0H-RTX-2080-Max-Q-Laptop-Review.410791.0.html
    Y740-17 i7-8750H RTX 2080 Max-Q good - 86%

    https://www.pcgamer.com/lenovo-legion-y740-review/
    Y740-17 i7-8750H RTX 2080 Max-Q 90%

    https://www.neowin.net/news/lenovo-legion-y740-17-inch-review-ray-tracing-and-dlss-on-a-laptop/
    Y740-17 i7-8750H RTX 2080 Max-Q great - 80%


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    15" (2.2kg 20mm) / 17" (2.8kg 23mm)
    i7-8750H
    FHD 72% Gamut G-Sync, 144Hz, 300nits (optional Dolby Vision HDR 400, 144Hz, 500nits)
    RTX2080 Max-Q 8GB, RTX2070 Max-Q 8GB, RTX2060 6GB
    up to 32GB Ram
    PCIe NVMe SSD
    2x M.2 slots
    Thunderbolt 3
    Dolby Atmos
    Killer Wireless
    Keyboard Corsair RGB lighting
    Battery 57Wh (5h) / 76Wh (6h)
    15" from 1700$ / 17" from 1900$

    Previews:

    https://www.ultrabookreview.com/24355-lenovo-legion-y740-y540/
    https://www.techradar.com/reviews/lenovo-legion-y740
    https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/lenovo-legion-y740-y540-specs-price
    https://www.ultrabookreview.com/24765-laptops-rtx-2060-graphics/
     
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    I'm interested. I was looking at a Y740 15" just now with a 8750H, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD and RTX2060 6GB for $2170 CAD tax in. 10-12 day estimated availability.

    5.1 lbs is the heaviest I'd want to go. Wish there were some reviews to confirm noise and thermals.

    Also is it just GSYNC or Optimus too?

    I've been waiting ages holding off on getting a GTX1060 laptop and really excited. I've made due (since my GTX860 laptop monitor broke 2 years ago) with a work laptop with just an integrated 620m. I'm very, very ready to upgrade :).

    Thanks,
    Peter
     
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    Up to 5 hour battery life on a 57Wh battery.

    It's just so much cheaper in Canada than an MSI GS65.

    Lenovo advertises this gen as being quieter and cooler.

    The Y740 15" is on sale today for $1822 CAD + tax for the RTX 2060 model - even with tax in it's only $2058.. very tempted. That's literally $760 CAD less than the GS65 with similar specs. Trading 1 lb more weight if I'm getting everything else nearly the same is definitely worth $760 to me...

    I just wish there was some official review somewhere for this. I can't find anything...

    Peter
     
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    Hi PJPeter!

    i also have a GTX860M myself (MSI GS60 2pc, 5 y.o.)...and its getting very slow this days!

    Im more interested in the 17" version, as an architect the bigger screen is a plus, and its not so heavy as other models. Also it "should" have a better cooling. On the other hand, here in Germany the MSI GS75 17" (just 2.3kg..) costs the same for the RTX2060 model, but 400€ more for the RTX2070, so im in a similar position like you!

    In any case, as soon I find any review about it I'll post it here ;)

    Victor
     
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    I’m glad people are talking about this. I only knew of this laptop about 10 days ago and it’s actually the laptop of choice and I found it because of this video.
    My main reason is because I want dedicated click buttons and no numpad (this setup actually comes from using thinkpads and hp business laptops from over 10yrs ago. )
    Coming from an Alienware 13 r3 and 15 r3, this is the next nearest thing and I think in a way it actually has copied their last gen design and made it a bit more sleek and fancier with the lighting.
    Can’t be sure of what option I’ll select as prices in uk are higher. But I do fancy the 2080. But I’ll see what they have as options first.


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    Glad you guys are interested too.

    I actually pulled the trigger and ordered a Y740 15 RTX2060 for $1822 CAD+tax last night a few minutes after my post.

    I checked into the pricing on the Alienware M15 ($2599+ CAD+tax), Razer Blade 15 ($3099+tax), GS65 ($2499+tax), Gigabyte Aero 15 ($2899+tax) and even a few others on the RTX2060 list that were around 2kg (but were plastic and definitely not as solidly built as this). Every other competing model was at least $175 CAD more+tax than the Y740 15, even for the pure plastic ones (like a $1999+tax MSI GL63). So this was definitely a no brainer :).

    I like I'll have a spot for a 2.5" SSD since I have many spare ones. I'll miss the SD Card slot but can make due.

    Tech support from Lenovo told me I can disable GSYNC and switch to Optimus through BIOS so I'll test that (restart each time but could be worth it for longer batt life while working). Lenovo Vantage looks like it'll give me the fan control I want.

    This one is easier to maintain than the GS65, I confirmed that the warranty won't be voided by opening the case and that I have 30 days to try it risk free once it arrives with no return shipping or restocking fees.

    I don't think Lenovo is participating in the free Anthem/BF5 Bundle Promo like ASUS, MSI and Razer are unfortunately.

    I read over the Y730 reviews and if the cooling is in fact better and quieter, the case is more solid and he keyboard is still great - it should absolutely be a

    I'll start posting a review with performance, noise, battery, and other tests as soon as I can once I receive it :). I'll let you guys know when it ships.

    Thanks,
    Peter
     
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    It was $260 CAD more for the RTX 2070 MaxQ model. But from all I've read, aside from actually raytracing performance there's no real gain and depending on the implementation the RTX2060 can be faster. So it seems like the sweet spot, especially at this price.

    I also tried to find the Predator Triton 500 somewhere just to see the pricing since it's a similar weight to thus. But it's not available in my region yet. And the one review I found online said it's very loud and still runs hot.

    Here's hoping the Y740 doesn't :).

    Peter
     
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    Still so little info out there on these.

    I realized the 5.1lbs listed on Lenovo sales site is just bad math. 15" is 2.2kg - so 4.85lbs.

    Marketing Videos:
    https://www.tvcommercialad.com/v/XB4kJj
    https://www.tvcommercialad.com/v/OeIA5Z

    My order (for reference):
    Lenovo Legion Y740 - Iron Grey
    Configuration Details
    ● Processor: Intel Core i7-8750H 6 Core (2.20GHz, up to 4.10GHz with Turbo Boost, 9MB Cache)
    ● Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64
    ● Display Type: 15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080) NVIDIA® G-SYNC, 144 Hz, 300 nits, software enabled Dolby Vision HDR
    ● Memory: 16GB (8GB + 8GB) DDR4 2666MHz
    ● Hard Drive: 256GB Solid State Drive PCIe
    ● Warranty: 1 Year Depot or Carry-in
    ● Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2060 6GB
    ● Keyboard: Backlit RGB Keyboard - US English
    ● Wireless: Killer Wireless 802.11 AC (2 x 2) + Bluetooth 4.1

    I also added on 1 year accidental damage warranty just incase since it was only $25 CAD.

    I like the spill resistant keyboard deck, but figured it would be worth it. Plus my Credit Card doubles the base 1 year warranty so hopefully that will cover me if something does go wrong. My P34G had a 2 year warranty by default - 1 year is a bit short for such a large purchase.

    Not sure when it'll ship but it says up to 12 business days. Might be no stock is actually available yet to anyone, hence the lack of reviews and info. Wish I could get the Win 10 Pro upgrade for just $39 CAD - but the customization adds $65 otherwise which makes it not worth it and would slow down shipping.

    Confirmed no Anthem/BFV bundle, Lenovo decided not to participate. No review credit like MSI is offering either.

    So the wait begins...

    Peter
     
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    It looks good Peter! i hope it will arrive to you soon!

    I'll still wait a bit for my Legion Y740 17", as here in Germany it says that it can be available in 4 weeks...so meanwhile I could read some reviews :) In my case, I have for 1999€ the RTX2060 (with Windows 10) and also for 1999€ the RTX2070MaxQ (without OS), so im not sure which one I should take...if only the 2070 could be not MaxQ...in any case, I think i will choose the RTX2070, those 2GB Vram should make some difference

    I find interesting the option to change GSync to Optimus...but will it be necessary to change it in every restart?

    Victor
     
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    Hi Victor,

    My understanding is that you need to go into the BIOS to make the change, which requires a restart. But once you make the change, it sticks until you go back into the BIOS and change it again. So it isn't a toggle. needed to do each boot thankfully. Will see once I get the system if that's how it actually works and if it fully activates Optimus or just disables the GPU which would be unacceptable to me.

    Looking into the reviews more, it seems that the low performance of the Aero 15X9 may be bringing down the overall benchmarks for the RTX 2060 vs 2070MaxQ in other laptop models. So the upgrade may be worth it - need to check into more comparisons, especially of more comparable models with the same CPUs. If it is a big difference, I might change my order - though I'd probably run a full set of tests on this one first).

    The Razer Blade with 2060 is now available in Canada at MS Store - $2699+tax though, so still so much more.

    I realized that the primary competition for the Y740 in my market seems to be the Dell G7 RTX 2060 is a similar price to the Y740 - around $1999 CAD - but that's for a laptop which is a lb heavier than this, so not an option for me.

    Some MSI GS65 owners carry a ~1.5 lb metal laptop desk next to their laptops in the bag to keep their laptops from bending. The 2019 model may better for this, but if you have to carry the extra weight anyway (my current lap desk folds and is much lighter and more usable).

    I did see in the Y740 manual that they may offer a 15" model with the same size battery as the Y740 17" - I suspect they'll do the same as other manufacturers and remove the second HDD slot in that case for the space. But I haven't see any details otherwise.

    Peter

    P.S.
    Most of the reviews/benchmarks I see are for 2080MaxQ laptops.
    This is a review (translated from french) of a RTX2060/i7-8750H to give some numbers:
    https://translate.google.com/transl...0-mobile-plus-rapide-1070-maxq/4/&prev=search

    And this is the review of the Acer Predator Triton 500 that let me know it wasn't even option because of the noise/cooling system:
    https://www.ultrabookreview.com/24809-acer-triton-500-review/

    And the other half of things - seems the proper drivers for RTX laptops were only released yesterday?
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/New-N...support-for-GeForce-RTX-laptops.403151.0.html

    Some more benchmarks of same processor and RTX2060 and RTX2070 Notebook GPUs. Can't set as MaxQ or not, but gives some idea. Wish there was some Lenovo results on the list to know but it's still good to reference and when there are, hopefully we'll see there:

    https://www.3dmark.com/search#/?mod...Count=0&cpuName=Intel Core i7-8750H Processor

    https://www.3dmark.com/search#/?mod...Count=0&cpuName=Intel Core i7-8750H Processor
     
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