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Lenovo Durability best?

Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by sinafl, Jun 7, 2010.

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  1. sinafl

    sinafl Notebook Geek

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    would you guys consider lenovo to be the best company as far as durability for pc manufacturers? I am thinking about buying the y560.. thanks.
     
  2. jaredy

    jaredy Notebook Virtuoso

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    There is really no "best" that covers ALL of a companies products (for most OEMs). The lenovo Thinkpads differ greatly in durability compared to Ideapads.

    You should probably let us know what other laptops you're considering so we can do more direct comparisons.
     
  3. sinafl

    sinafl Notebook Geek

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    why do they differ so greatly? I was thinking about the envy 14 as well, but from the reviews of the envy 17 so far.. not so much. I was mainly looking for an aesthetically well built PC with a ton of power. The Dell xps 16 was on my list, but because of its looks, I crossed it off.
     
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    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    you mean well designed machine? Lenovo machines doesn't look as good as some of the competitor's laptops. In terms of design and aesthetics i think Apple MBP is the best, but durability and feature wise it is not the best.
     
  5. sinafl

    sinafl Notebook Geek

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    what do you consider better that utilizes microsoft as its priority?
     
  6. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    In my experience whether things "work out" or not boils down to plain dumb luck more than anything else, which sort of takes out any rationality from the process. I've had six or seven ThinkPads in a row. Only the only problem I've had with one is a hard drive failed on my T42, which was quickly replaced.
     
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    systemfehler Notebook Geek

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    I disagree! A Thinkpad looks like a perfect example how a notebook should look like. Black, plain with some highlights (track point, logo, metal hinges). I can not figure out why so many people like the Apple design. Thinkpad design is a clear archetype of design school:

    "form follows function" one of the single most important decisions every (hardware, software, etc.) architect should follow.

    @sinafl: You should know that a y560 is not a Thinkpad and there are certain downsides because of that. So be carefull just because a T61p or a W510 have great build quality does not mean a Ideapad falls into the same category.
     
  8. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    This argument has been proceeding for many years, and there is probably no end to it. I am not talking about the Thinkpad as such, but the general Lenovo laptop line up. And it is clear from the post, the OP is not really after the thinkpads but more inclined to the ideapad machines.

    In the consumer laptop market Apple MBP does look the best, there is simply no argument about it. But Thinkpad is not a consumer laptop, it is more of a business laptop.

    I do love Thinkpads, which is why i have so many. But if i was going to buy a consumer grade laptop, then Apple MBP gets my pick over anything else, provided that my budget is not limited. I could also go for the alienware M17x for the sake of owning a machine that cram all the latest technology into in portable package (relatively speaking).


    This is exactly what i meant, which i should of explained a little better in the my previous post.
     
  9. warakawa

    warakawa Notebook Evangelist

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    looks is too subjective to be measure accurately. "there is simply no argument about it" comment does not stand.
     
  10. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    So which consumer laptop do you think looks better than the MBP? HP Envy? or any of those off the shelf ODM/JDM consumer laptops designed mostly by Foxconn, Compal, Wistron, etc...
     
  11. marlinspike

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    Yes, among non-fully-ruggedized laptops, assuming you are looking at the Thinkpad T, X, and W series. Everything else, all bets are off.
     
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    See, to me, the traditional Thinkpads like the T and X looks better than the MBP. The Thinkpad Edge is also pretty sexy. But then, I always liked Bauhaus. Also, I love pretty much everything Richard Sapper ever made (and lest you think it's the cart leading the horse, I liked the things before I knew who designed them).
     
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    panansonic toughbook
     
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    Having both a Thinkpad and Ideapad I can tell you this... Whenever I have the Ideapad out and about I feel like I'm handling a bomb. I hate even having books in my backpack with it because the lid is so thin. If I were to drop it, she would most likely not survive, same goes with water. The Thinkpad, I never give it any thought as to it's safety. I know it will be able to dropped, kicked, punched, and soak up water spills. If the lifespan of my Ideapad is a couple of years, I'll be greatly happy. I wouldn't be surprised if my T61 lasts 5 or 10 years.
     
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    But this is only true for the "fully-rugged" models.
     
  16. warakawa

    warakawa Notebook Evangelist

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    why would you need a laptop that lasts more than 5 years anyway?

    after 3 years a second hand laptop would lose 70 - 90% of their value.

    I would never pay for a 5 year old laptop no matter how tough they are. A super tough laptop after 5 years is literally a brick
     
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    Some people loathe replacing computers. You don't want to image that old drive onto your new computer, so you're starting fresh. Also, it's cheaper to buy a good laptop every 6 years than a cheap laptop every 2 years. The technologhy has gotten to where even if the new computers are much faster, the old computer is still plenty fast. My T60 is over 3.5 years old, and I don't find it lacking in any way, I bought an X201 to have a more mobile option, but the T sits on my desk and the X sits in my bag (i.e. both get used).
     
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    This is my thinking on notebooks. I don't buy them with resale value in mind and I use them until they become obsolete. I'd much rather spend more money now on something that has the latest technology and use it for several years than have to upgrade repeatedly. Heck I'm even struggling right now with the idea of replacing my 2004 Compaq Evo N620c...other than the graphics chipset being completely obsolete there's not much that it can't do. My prime candidate to replace it though is a T410 i7.
     
  19. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    But Panasonic Toughbooks and Thinkpads classic that some of you people mentioned are not consumer laptops, they are business/professional laptops.

    Some people look at Laptop resell value, because they tend to sell their laptops after using it for while, like what some people do with their cars. But not everyone sells their laptop or purchase laptops with resell value in mind.

    Lot of people will use their laptops till it no longer works, or too slow to function as their personal computers.

    Given that lot of people still uses Pentium 4 T30 thinkpads.
     
  20. jaredy

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    Heh, this got off the topic of the sort of laptops OP was looking at.
     
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