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Latitude E6410 vs E6420

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by dandv, Feb 16, 2011.

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  1. dandv

    dandv Notebook Consultant

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    If you wanted to buy a Dell Latitude E6410 or an E6420, which one would you buy, if price is no concern, and why?

    E6410:
    * 1440x900
    * 7-row keyboard layout with Home/End/Ins/Del/Page Up/Down like on normal keyboards
    * classic design
    * NVIDIA Quadro NVS 3100M
    * DisplayPort
    * USB3 ports via ExpressCard
    * Blu-Ray module available separately

    E6420:
    * 1600x900
    * ordinary keyboard layout
    * rounded corners design
    * Sandy Bridge
    * NVIDIA Quadro NVS 4200M
    * HDMI
    * USB3 ports via bay module
    * no Blu-Ray bay option
    * not available for another 2 weeks
     
  2. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    The one good thing I see about the E6420 is having the Page up / Page down keys near the front of the keyboard (as on the E4300). However, this isn't enough to offset the 16:9 display. Although 1600 x 900 offers more pixels than 1440 x 900, the extra width only comes useful for watching movies or using wide spreadsheets. In return one gets smaller pixels and 5.6 square inches less display.

    I will be keeping with eSATA for a while longer so the availability of USB 3.0 (as an extra cost add-on) won't interest me. And, unless I'm mistaken, one has to remove a lot more screws to get inside the E6420. I would assume, until I read to the contrary, that Dell will have designed the E6x20 series to fit in the existing E series docks. The photo here suggests that the connector is in the right place.

    John
     
  3. agb22

    agb22 Notebook Geek

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    I think you have to wait and see what sandybridge really offers. Some say it will offer ridiculous battery life while others say its marginally better. Some say the integrated graphics are as good as mid range graphics cards while others say its not a big difference compared to current integrated graphics. I wanted to buy a e6410 a month ago but decided to wait to see what the e6420 has to offer. Hopefully it wasnt a month wasted.
     
  4. enterprise-peon

    enterprise-peon Notebook Consultant

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    The E6420 has the same docking connector as the E6400/E6410. (I saw a picture of it somewhere) Dell has promised that the dock connectors will stay around for (at least) five years at a time. So plan on seeing the black angular E6400 port replicators and docks with your nice rounded metalic colored E6420.
     
  5. Bokeh

    Bokeh Notebook Deity

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    E6420:
    * apparently no docking solution yet

    No actual source for this. Your link commented on how the look of the dock will be angular compared to the rounded E6420. My rounded M6500 looks like with the angular dock. Docks don't usually change until the generation changes - D dock vs E dock. Plus, your link below says the E dock is the same. I would say there is a 99% chance that they have a docking solution in place :)

    * not available for another month[/QUOTE]

    Today is Feb 16th. The article you linked says March 1. This is not a month. This is less than 2 weeks.
     
  6. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Personally, there is no difference in the keyboard for me as my 2+ yr old Acer already had a similar layout to the E6420. As for Blu-ray, I'm not overtly concerned as I don't use an ODD much. I'm more concerned about whether they use a standard 9.5mm or 12.7mm ODD with a replaceable bezel so that I can replace that with a HDD/SSD (which I'm sure will be possible). This would mean that Blu-ray will be a feasible upgrade too.

    We already know how SB is. It has been out for a little while now and there are several reviews on it. It really depends on your usage. If you require CPU power for computing, then SB will be noticeably better, while for daily tasks, they'll perform the same. Battery life will definitely better, how much again depends on your specific system, but comparing a similar specced E6410 and E6420, I would guess at least 10-20% more. If you don't mind the physical changes, I would say that the E6420 is the better choice.
     
  7. agb22

    agb22 Notebook Geek

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    I didnt think sandbridge i3/i5's were reviewed yet..
     
  8. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow Super Moderator

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    I'd still take the E6410 over the E6420. You get a notebook that has proven it's reliability vs a not so reliable Cougar Point..

    That and the E6410 is much better looking than it's "replacement".
     
  9. dandv

    dandv Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for the feedback; I've updated the post.
     
  10. GKDesigns

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    From what I've seen, the E6420 is a step up from the E6410 except it may cost more, is a scrunch larger, may have less screen height, replaces DisplayPort with HDMI, and abandons PC Card and the microphone jack. Note that the docking station still has a DisplayPort, so HDMI for the road and DisplayPort for the office.

    E6520: 1.11-1.35"h x 15.12"w x 10.16"d... 3/8" wider (15.6" 16:9), 1/4" deeper
    E6510: 1.10-1.30"h x 14.74"w x 9.97"d

    E6420: 1.06-1.28"h x 13.86"w x 9.49"d... 3/4" wider (14" 16:9), 1/8" deeper
    E6410: 1.00-1.22"h x 13.10"w x 9.38"d

    New E6420 attributes:
    o Mil-standard design, durable, dust-proof, spill-proof keyboard.
    o Full Mg 3D frames in lid and chassis. Less plastic.
    o Full surround lid bumper.
    o Silver banding highlights ports.
    o Traditional slide-release solid lid latch (2 on the E6520).
    o Round corners for smooth handling.
    o Said to have soft palm rests?
    o "High quality speakers" in front facing user, not collecting grit and drink.
    o 32nm CPU/GPU should be more energy efficient and cooler...
    o Intel HD 3000 integrated GPU promises to be more viable than ever...
    o ... hence, longer battery life.
    o nVidia NVSTM 4200M discrete GPU (DirectX 11 support) (HDMI 1920x1080)
    o "Best antenna performance on the market".
    o SATA3 6GBps begging for an SSD.
    o E-Module Bay II options: hard drive, battery, and USB 3.0.
    o HD webcam.
    o Dell Wireless 375 Bluetooth 3.0.
    o 1 full and 2 half mini cards slots... is this different?
    o 16:9 screen.

    The E6420 will accomodate a USB 3.0 Express Card. There will most likely be a Blu-Ray ODD option. And Dell will not ship any MBs with the Cougar Point defect (SATA2 ports that degrade over time... Intel is footing the 1B$ bill for this one.).

    Buy the E6420, of course. It's built and looks sharp... the chicks will dig it!

    GK
     
  11. enterprise-peon

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    The term may better be described as "augments". DisplayPort will still be on the E6420, but not on the laptop itself, but thru the E series docking port. Both the PR02X and PR03X replicators will probably be sticking around. And those have ether one or two display port connectors.

    This is the best of both worlds, you have Displayport for your DELL Flat Pannel on the replicator. And HDMI for any AV equipment you might run into on the laptop frame itself.
     
  12. GKDesigns

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    Check... I was sticking to the E6420. Do they have PS/2, //, and -- ports on the docking station? :)

    GK
     
  13. enterprise-peon

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    The PR02X has PS/2 on it, the lite replicator PR03X does not.
     
  14. pianowizard

    pianowizard Notebook Evangelist

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    This is a tough call. The E6420 is clearly better engineered and more durable, and the resolution is significantly better than the E6410's 1440x900. But the E6420 is also heavier, bulkier, and IMO uglier. I guess if price is really no concern, I would go for the E6420. However, the reality is the E6410 will become much cheaper once the E6420 comes out, so my choice would depend on how big the price difference is.

    I wish Dell would do what Lenovo has done for the Thinkpads: In addition to a regular 14" T410, offer a lighter T410s.
     
  15. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow Super Moderator

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    Where did all the cheapo E6400 go? :(

    I don't think the E6410 can drop anymore in price, take a look at Outlet. I had my base base E6410 for 458 shipped after a coupon, i3, 1 GB RAM, 160 GB HDD which I easily put to 8 GB RAM and a 500 GB HDD. We won't see refurbished E6420 til at least 2-3 months after initial launch, and the price won't be that much from the new ones..
     
  16. GKDesigns

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    Off topic? :)

    GK
     
  17. naveengrover

    naveengrover Newbie

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    Thanks All for posting your experience.

    I am looking to buy E6420 - my major requirement is processor power. Looking for laptop which can work as server for some presentations.

    I am having couple of major issues if one can suggest - how much hot machine gets - can we work with this machine after keeping in Lap or it gets Hot enough that you can't do coding / debugging after keeping in Lap.

    I am currently having Latitude D520, it has got older and not idle for server. Can someone suggest if it is fine to go with E6410-640M or E6420-2720QM has lot of difference as far as power is concerned.

    The owner of E6410 (640M) - if you are working as developer with IBM RAD / RSA installed. Have you ever felt the need to upgrade to E6420 with better processor like 2720QM.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  18. on2

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    The consumerish looks of the E6420 is enough for me to want to keep my business looking E6410.
     
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