Laptop for young architect (CAD+Adobe)

Discussion in 'What Notebook Should I Buy?' started by victorgm, Jul 5, 2018.

  1. 9ac3

    9ac3 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    11
    Messages:
    181
    Likes Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    41
    victorgm likes this.
  2. XeonPlanner

    XeonPlanner Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    24
    Trophy Points:
    16
    A 8th gen Dell G3 may be OK. It has quad core i5-8300H, GTX1050, 8g ram, 128g ssd+1t hdd. I didn't check the price of that machine but I believe it is around 900 euro.
     
    victorgm likes this.
  3. victorgm

    victorgm Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    42
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Hi guys again!

    many thanks too all of you for your kind help! :)

    My sister would prefer to buy a new one instead of refurbished/used...so just new ones are valid ;)

    9ac3 thanks! i already read it, and sadly the fact that the color accuracy is not so good (sRGB 58%, AdobeRGB 37%), the AMD graphic card (I would prefer a Nvidia), and that it gets hot under load made me dismiss it...should I maybe not?

    XeonPlanner many thanks! here in Europe there are just selling G3 with 17", but G5 does have 15,6" (coming next)

    So, i´ve updated the list and now it looks like this:


    - Acer Swift 3 SF315-52G 800€
    The lightest (aluminum 1.80kg), i7-8550U, 8GB Ram, MX150 2GB, 1TB + 128SSD

    - Aspire 7 A715-72G 1000€
    The 2nd most powerful i5-8300H + GTX 1050 4GB and heaviest (2.40kg plastic), 8GB Ram, 1TB + 256SSD

    - Dell Inspiron 15 7000 800-850€ (15% discount included)
    The 2nd lightest (2kg aluminum), i7-8550U, 8GB Ram, MX130 4GB DDR5, 1TB + 128SSD (or 512SSD)
    https://www.dell.com/es-es/shop/por...-inspiron-15-7000/spd/inspiron-15-7570-laptop

    - Dell G5 15 1000€ (incl 15% discount)
    The heaviest (2.65kg) and most powerful with i7-8750H, 16GB Ram, GTX1050 Ti 4GB, 1TB + 128SSD
    https://www.dell.com/es-es/shop/por...juegos-dell-15-g5/spd/g-series-15-5587-laptop



    On the one hand we have the light Acer Swift 3 and Dell Inspiron 15, which are almost identical except that the second has the MX130 4GB instead of the MX150 2GB ... and reading in forums I still do not know which one is better..

    On the other hand we have the heavy ones, being the most powerful/complete the Dell G5 15 (i7-8750H, 16GB Ram, GTX1050 Ti 4GB) and then come the Acer Aspire 7 (i5-8300H, 8GB Ram, GTX 1050 4GB), a slightly less powerful but with a 256GB SSD instead of 128GB.

    When trying to choose between these, the key would be to know if the Acer Swift 3 or the Dell Inspiron 15 7000 could play well in the use that my sister would give, at good temperatures and if the screen are good enough (matte, decent color accuracy). Obviously, the Dell G5 15 is more powerful in every way, but the first ones compensate with great mobility, and perhaps the difference in power for her use is not so important (as if it could be if she were going to play with it, which its not the case).

    What is your opinion? do you think that she could work fluidly with the two lighters? maybe by expanding the RAM to 16GB?



    I bring you an extra one, that could also fit her needs:

    - Dell Precision 3520 915€
    The "budget proffesional oriented one", with a Quadro M620 2GB but i5-7440HQ, 8GB Ram and 256SSD
    https://www.cyberport.de/notebook-u...q-full-hd-ssd-quadro-m620-windows-10-pro.html

    The final question would be: does the Quadro M620 worth the i5-7440HQ of the Dell Precision 3520? The hard work of the laptop will be to deal with architectural designs of medium detail/complexity in 3D in Autocad / Rhino / 3dsMax, also to be able to render at a decent time, and to handle well with heavy files (+-1GB) of Photoshop, Illustrator and Indesign...does the Quadro makes here a big difference? (i´ve read a lot about this topic, and still not sure)

    Many thanks! :)
    Victor

    PS: I'm not 100% sure yet... but I think that the Dell G5 15 and Precision 3520 are the only ones with a matte / anti-reflective screen...o_O
     
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2018
  4. XeonPlanner

    XeonPlanner Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    24
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Dell G5 is also matte. Also, get rid of the mx130 laptop. It's just a rebranded 940mx from maxwell generation.
    Precision 3520 has performance trails behind competitors, but consider Precision 3530 which performs much better.
     
    Vasudev and victorgm like this.
  5. victorgm

    victorgm Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    42
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Many thanks for your answer XeonPlanner!

    Yes, I also mentioned the Dell G5. I would also prefer a Precision 3530, but sadly they start from 1500€ and that's too much...

    Would you recommend me the Precision above the Dell G5? would it not be better the "pack" i7-8750H+16GB+GTX1050Ti than the i5-7440HQ+8GB+Quadro M620?

    Thanks! :)
     
    Vasudev likes this.
  6. 9ac3

    9ac3 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    11
    Messages:
    181
    Likes Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Fair enough, but I honestly think that a cheap gaming laptop would be able to satisfy your sister's needs. I understand that weight is an issue here but you need the powerful H processors for stuff like CAD. If you want a gaming laptop then check out Acer Helios 300. It has a very high sRGB and Adobe RGB coverage and comes with a GTX 1060.

    See here for a short video review:

     
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2018
    victorgm likes this.
  7. XeonPlanner

    XeonPlanner Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    24
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Avoid maxwell and kaby lake i5. They are absolutely no-go if you want to buy a new laptop at 2018.
    If I need to compare between G5 and 3520, I'll definitely choose G5. But if you have a little more to spare, I would recommend precision 3530, with i7-8750h and quadro p600. Price is around 1100-1200 euro.
     
    victorgm likes this.
  8. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 nͫٴiͤٴcͫٴeͤ੮Һ૯ ცɿ૭ ૭คעٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴٴ

    Reputations:
    3,307
    Messages:
    8,954
    Likes Received:
    6,262
    Trophy Points:
    681
    I wonder what exact panel that is
     
    Vasudev and victorgm like this.
  9. victorgm

    victorgm Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    42
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Many thanks again guys! i really appreciate your continued support!

    9ac3: Acer Helios 300 starts with a decent setup from 1300-1400€...so sadly out of budget...
    XeonPlanner: I´ve not found the Dell Precision 3530 with i7-8750h and Quadro P600 in Europe for 1100-1200€...do you maybe have a link? I just found it from 1500€ (8gb Ram, SSD)...

    I was going to tell my sister to buy the Dell G5 15, as its the most powerful/complete for the price including 16GB Ram, but I´m not happy about the screen as it only offers 57% sRGB and 36% AdobeRGB...and if she is going to work with Photoshop and architecture panels for competitions, its kind of important that the color is moreless accurate (although in the end the printer/ploter does what he wants with the colors).

    Not same model, but same screen: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-...060-Max-Q-SSD-IPS-Laptop-Review.312816.0.html

    While searching I´ve found this Acer Aspire V15, whose screen (matte) offers a better color calibration = 85% sRGB and 56% AdobeRGB.

    Acer Aspire V15 1000€
    • Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ (4 Cores 2,8 GHz)
    • 39,6 cm (15,6") Acer ComfyView™ Full-HD IPS Matte Display with LED-Backlight
    • 8 GB 2x4GB (just 2 slots) DDR4 RAM
    • 512 GB SSD PCIe
    • NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060 6GB GDDR5
    • 2.50kg
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Acer-...G-7700HQ-GTX-1060-Laptop-Review.207344.0.html

    Comparing it with the Dell G5 15, for the same price and weight, the Aspire V15 has a I7-7700HQ instead of i7-8750H and only 8GB (2x4GB) RAM instead of 16GB, but it has a better display (85% sRGB vs 57%), a bigger SSD loosing the HDD (512GB vs 128GB+1TB) and a better GPU (GTX1060 6GB vs GTX1050Ti 4GB).

    What do you think about this option? we could always upgrade the RAM in the future if necessary (it comes with 2x4GB and just 2 slots...so we should buy 2x8GB)...and she already has an external HDD...does the better screen + better GPU worth the lack of 16GB Ram and the downgrade from i7-8750H to i7-7700HQ?

    She is not going to play with it...so maybe it would be more important a better processor than a better GPU...

    Many thanks! :)
     
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2018
  10. XeonPlanner

    XeonPlanner Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    24
    Trophy Points:
    16
    It is actually pretty simple to change the screen of G5.
    Look at this pic and you'll immediately understand how to do.
    [​IMG]
    Purchase an aftermarket screen with high color gamut and replace it.
     
Loading...

Share This Page