Kaby Lake Precision pre-release discussion (5520 / 7520 / 7720)

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  1. Aaron44126

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    Dell blog post: http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/usc...ge-the-senses-with-stunning-sights-and-sounds

    What we know so far...

    The Precision 5520 has a page up a Dell with pictures and the full specs. It is not yet available for sale.
    http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/precision-15-5520-laptop/pd
    (Not sure why the picture at the top doesn't match up with the pictures further down the page.)

    It is very similar to the 5510 and the new XPS 15. It has Kaby Lake CPU options, but apparently a refreshed NVIDIA Maxwell-based GPU, the Quadro M1200.

    Starting price - $1,399
    Availability date - According to blog post linked above, "coming soon"
    Update 1/12: You can now purchase a 5520 from here (good catch @jazzman)

    A picture:
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    Expand spoiler for specs:
    Processor

    Intel® Xeon® Quad Core (E3-1505M)
    Intel® 7th Gen Intel® Core™ i7 (7820HQ)
    Intel® 7th Gen Intel® Core™ i5 (7400HQ, 7300HQ)

    Operating System

    Ubuntu Linux 16.04,FI,WW
    Windows 10 Home 64bit English
    Windows 10 Home Single Language, 64-bit, English
    Windows 10 Home Single Language 64bit English
    Windows 10 Home 64bit English, French, Spanish
    Windows 10 Home 64bit Português (Brasil)
    Windows 10 Home 64bit Single Language Spanish
    Windows 10 Home Single Language 64bit Spanish
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit English, French, Spanish
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit Português (Brasil)

    Memory

    Up to 32GB2 DDR4 at 2400Mhz - 2 DIMMS

    Chipset

    Mobile Intel CM238

    Graphics Card

    NVIDIA Quadro M1200 with 4GB GDDR5 dedicated memory

    Display

    15.6” Non-Touch Infinity FHD, 400nits, Bezel, Anti-Glare
    15.6” Touch UHD InfinityEdge, 400nits, Bonded Glass ETED, 400nits, 100% Color Gamut, 1200:1 Contrast Ratio, 85/85/85/85 angles

    Hard Drive

    Up to 2000GB2 SATA hard drive
    Up to 1000GB2 Solid State Drive SATA hard drive
    Up to 500GB2 SATA hard drive

    Connectivity

    Intel 802.11ac + Bluetooth 4.1, WiDi
    Dell Wireless 802.11ac + Bluetooth 4.1, WiDi

    Power

    130 Watt AC adapter (4.5mm barrel)

    Dimensions

    Height: 0.44” (11.1mm) x Width: 14.05” (357mm) x Depth: 9.26” (235.3mm)
    Weight: 3.93lbs (1.78kg)

    Ports

    2 USB 3.0
    1 Memory card reader
    1 Power adapter port
    1 HDMI
    1 Thunderbolt 3
    1 Headphone jack

    The Precision 7720 was announced at CES, to be available for order at the end of February. (Thanks @awalt for noticing it first, in the 7710 thread.)
    It is pretty much just like the Precision 7710, but with Kaby Lake CPU and NVIDIA Pascal GPU options. They are marketing it as "VR ready".

    It will also be available with Intel Skylake CPUs. Microsoft only supports Windows 7 on Skylake, not Kaby Lake. (That probably means that Dell will only sell you Windows 7 pre-installed on a Skylake configuration.)

    Presumably the Precision 7520 will be released at the same time, with a 15" form factor, lower end GPUs, and only one M.2 slot. I haven't seen any mention of it yet, though.

    Starting price - $1,699
    Availability date - According to blog post linked above, February 28
    Update 3/8: According to @Dell-Mano_G, March 21 (source)
    (That's when you can order it, shipping will probably not occur for another two or three weeks, if past Precision launches are any indication.)
    Update 3/21: 7520 and 7720 are now available for purchase.
    7520: http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/precision-15-7520-laptop/pd?ref=PD_Family
    7720: http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/precision-17-7720-laptop/pd?ref=PD_Family

    A picture:
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    Same silly keyboard layout with no dedicated Home/End keys...

    Expand spoiler for specs (source):
    Operating system:

    Windows 7 Pro (only with 6th-Gen Intel CPUs in Q2 2017)
    Windows 8.1 Pro (only with 6th-Gen Intel CPUs in Q2 2017)
    Windows 10 Pro
    Windows 10 Home
    Ubuntu 16.04 SP1
    Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.3 (Q2 2017)

    Display size:

    17.3 inches

    Resolution:

    1,600 x 900 (TN) (42-percent color gamut)
    1,920 x 1,080 (IPS) (72-percent color gamut)
    3,840 x 2,160 (IGZO) (100-percent Adobe color gamut)

    Processor:

    Intel Xeon E3-1535M v6
    Intel Xeon E3-1505M v6
    Intel Core i7-7820HQ
    Intel Core i7-7700HQ
    Intel Core i7-7440HQ
    Intel Core i5-7300HQ
    Intel Xeon E3-1575M v5 (Q2 2017)
    Intel Xeon E3-1545M v5 (Q2 2017)
    Intel Core i7-6920HQ (Q2 2017)
    Intel Core i7-6820HQ (Q2 2017)

    Memory (4 slots):

    Up to 64GB DDR4 @ 2,400MHz
    Up to 32GB DDR4 @ 2,667MHz

    Graphics:

    Intel Iris Pro Graphics 580
    Intel HD Graphics 630
    Radeon Pro WX 4130 w/ 2GB GDDR5
    Radeon Pro WX 7100 w/ 8GB GDDR5
    Nvidia Quadro P3000 w/ 6GB GDDR5
    Nvidia Quadro P4000 w/ 8 GB GDDR5
    Nvidia Quadro P5000 w/ 16GB GDDR5

    Storage:

    Up to three drives – two M.2 PCIe SSDs and one M.2 PCIe/2.5” SATA drive
    HDD – 500GB and 1TB 7,200RPM up to 2TB 5,400RPM
    SSD – 256GB, 512GB, 512GB with self-encrypting, and 1TB
    M.2 PCIe SSD – 256GB, 512GB, 512GB with self-encrypting, and 1TB

    Connectivity:

    Intel Wireless AC (2×2) and Bluetooth 4.2
    Dell Wireless AC (2×2) and Bluetooth 4.2
    4G LTE

    Ports:

    1x gigabit Ethernet
    1x SD card reader
    1x SmartCard reader
    1x Thunderbolt 3
    4x USB 3.0 (one charges)
    1x Mini DisplayPort
    1x HDMI
    1x Microphone/headphone combo

    Multimedia:

    2x high-quality speakers
    2x noise canceling digital array microphones (optional)
    MaxxAudio Pro by Waves
    Light sensitive HD video webcam (optional)

    Security:

    Intel Platform Trust Technology
    Trusted Platform Module 1.2/2.0
    Chassis lock slot
    Computrace (optional)
    Contactless SmartCard Reader/Fingerprint Reader (optional)
    FIPS Fingerprint Reader (optional)

    Battery:

    72 Watt hour
    91 Watt hour
    91 Watt hour (long life cycle)

    Power adapter:

    240 watt

    Size:

    16.42 x 11.08 x 1.12 (front) / 1.36 (back) inches

    Weight:

    Starting at 7.55 pounds

    The Quadro P5000 has the same shader count as a mobile GeForce 1070, but more memory. The Quadro P3000 has the same specs as a mobile GeForce 1060. 15" systems are getting refreshed Maxwell-based Quadros.
     
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    its a shame about the keyboard and the gpu being maxwell instead of pascal based quadro.

    At this point, the only advantage is top end xeon cpu can turbo to 4ghz vs 3.6ghz on 7700HQ.

    XPS 15 seems a better buy even for work, then there is
    MSI WS63 thin and light workstation has quadro P3000
     
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    Seems a strange decision with 5520, it's a minor spec bump. I assume because the lower end Pascal based Quadro's aren't available Dell have gone ahead and updated now rather than wait? There will probably been a few good deals around on the 5510 over the next couple of months for what is essentially the same laptop. Perhaps another update from Dell later in the year? At the moment the workstation variant of the XPS line has noticeably weaker graphics.
     
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    To be fair, we don't know the specs of the supposed Quadro M1200 yet (or the Pascal Quadros either, for that matter). That said, I'm expecting it to be weaker than the Quadro P1000M.

    I don't think it's the case that Pascal mobile Quadros aren't ready, the 7720 has them and it appears to be launching first.
     
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    So I guess we won't see any real cosmetic changes until the next version 7730 or 8810 whatever they name it.

    What about those SSD's I wonder if they are updated SSD's Samsung etc?

    Also, I wonder if the HDMI is 2.0? I think I saw a couple of Notebooks that were shown at CES that had them. So I assume HDMI 2.0 will appear more this year.
     
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    It looks like the Kaby Lake GPU doesn't offer native support for HDMI 2.0. I imagine that Dell will stick with the configuration of the previous generation, having the HDMI port driven by the Intel GPU if graphics switching is enabled, so it will be HDMI 1.4. You might get HDMI 2.0 if graphics switching is disabled and the discrete GPU is used exclusively. (Also, it isn't possible to disable graphics switching on the 5510, and I would expect that to also be the case with the 5520.)
     
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    Sigh. Not surprised, the mobile Quadro is usually a bit below the top desktop-class cards in terms of shader count and clock speed. I would bet they are using the standard MXM sized module for these cards, and a 1080-class card would probably need to be a little larger (plus require extra power), but it has long since been speculated that it should be possible to make a 1070 card at the regular size. When I saw the 16 GB of vRAM figure, and since they have been making a push to get mobile (gaming) GPUs on par with the desktop cards, I thought maybe they would pair that with the same shader count as the 1080, but I guess not....

    [Edit]
    It looks like the P4000 sits in between the GeForce 1060 and 1070. P3000 has the same shader count and memory as the GeForce 1060.

    And hey, the Quadro M1200 is on there as well, that's the one that we saw in the Precision 5510. I guess the 7510 might be coming with Maxwell-based Quadros as well, probably with the M1200 and M2200 as the options from NVIDIA.
     
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    And being sold along side the 5510. I priced a 5510 along side a 5520 with same selected options with exception of the gpus (2GB m1000m and 4GB m1200m). Price difference was extremely close and negligible.
     
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