Just bought a new laptop having frustrating issues plz help

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  1. JRE84

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    Just bought a asus ux434fl mx250 laptop from londondrugs.com and i'm seeing the gpu clocks decrease to 600mhz and i'm getting serve lag spikes.

    set to high performance
    shutup10 disabled most crap
    all nvidia settings set to standard off
    seems to be throttling at 75c


    I installed gputweak 2 to raise the thermal limit from 75c to 94c but it isn't doing anything still throttles at 77 or 75c

    similar issue to the ux430un laptops with the mx150 but they had a quick fix install gputweak walla

    any suggestions would be super awesome thanks in advance

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    Did you set your nVIDIA Control Panel Power Management to Adaptive or High Performance?

    Right click on your desktop then choose nVIDIA Control Panel. Go to Manage 3D Settings from the left pane, then scroll down a bit until you see power management. If you see it's set to OPTIMAL which is the default setting when you install a driver. That's your issue.

    Optimal Power means when there is no draw on the screen, the GPU clock speeds is set 0 MHz to save power and then ramps up once it needs to. Sounds great on paper, works like crap. This is the number one reason why anyone might experience crappy performance from their nVIDIA GPU. What's worse, is that's the default setting in the nVIDIA Control Panel after you install a new driver often leading people to blame the driver for bad performance when it's just the fault of nVIDIA's clowns.

    Set the power management to Adaptive which puts the GPU at lower clock speeds when no GPU intensive apps are in use and it would ramp the clocks up when needed. That actually works. It's the best balance between getting lower heat from the GPU and good performance in games.

    When benchmarking, for the optimal results, it's best to set the power management to High Performance.

    Mind you, after you change the power management to whatever you set it to, a reboot is mandatory for the new clocks to take effect.

    Classical nVIDIA Swiss Cheese
     
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    I tried high perofmance and well all the power settings with the same results...I just did a fresh install of windows and left everything stock and it seems to not do it as much...it is a known asus ultrabook flaw but I was under the impression it was easy to fix

    not sure what to do now, im not exactly a rookie...been lurking nbr for 15 years


    i just installed nvidia inspector and its showing a limit of 77c which is way to low for an ultrabook. I tried gputweak 2 to get that raised but it did nothing for some reason....any tips anyone
     
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    Undervolt the CPU to gain thermal headroom?
    Repaste might help lowering temps a bit as well.
     
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    i undervolted cpu with throttlestop...its mainly the gpu throttling at 77c
     
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    Its Pascal based, and with some luck the VBIOS is embedded in the system BIOS, dump your laptop BIOS with the correct version of fptw(check what is your ME firmware version, grab the correct tools from win-raid) and post the dump here and I will check if there is a VBIOS in there.

    After that, maybe Pascal TDP Tweaker can work with that VBIOS, or you will need someone to mod the VBIOS, then its a matter of replacing the VBIOS and flashing it all, and remembering that if you update your BIOS you need to replace the VBIOS.

    All this assuming that the VBIOS is on the system BIOS, if not, you will need an hardware programmer.
     
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    if its that complex ill just return the laptop
     
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    returned laptop and got a acer nitro 5 with 1050......happy so far.

    I would have got a xps 15 but everything is sold out due to corona virus
     
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