ITS OFFICIAL 8700m GT ON THE WAY!

Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by The Forerunner, Jun 12, 2007.

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  1. X-29

    X-29 Notebook Enthusiast

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    That is what I am hoping and so far all of the specs and early benchmarks point to it being on par with the 7950GTX, but I'm not going to put money down on it til I see some in game performance numbers.
     
  2. Intensity

    Intensity Notebook Geek

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    So what does this means? Put off pressure on Nvidia for the 8800M for the time being, or is it that the 8800M will not come at all? Where does this leave the gaming laptops, hanging somewhere? The 8700M GT is somewhat disappointing and what about DAAMIT, anyone got news, any laptop x2900 or that's just a dream?
     
  3. lunateck

    lunateck Bananaed

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    I think we will only see a mobility HD2900 (not x2900) when it goes 65nm, which might be 6 months from now or even longer.

    This sux, if Nvidia brought out the 8800M instead of this, i ll buy those right away.
     
  4. wave

    wave Notebook Virtuoso

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    Isnt ATI/AMD already producing the HD2X00 series in 65nm? I thought the HD2600 when it comes, if it ever comes, will be 65nm from the start. Only Nvidia will switch from 80 to 65nm in a few month time.
     
  5. ltcommander_data

    ltcommander_data Notebook Deity

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    The HD2400 and HD 2600 are 65nm and the HD2900 is 80nm. nVidia similarly have the high-end a process generation behind, with the 8800 on 90nm and everything else on 80nm.
     
  6. The Forerunner

    The Forerunner Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yes well the 8800ms are also supposed to come out this summer too. I dunno call me an optimist but this was my point about mxmII regarding the c90. This card is a 35tdp meaning mxmIII and nvidia obviously was not focusing greatly on energy efficiency. So if the speculation about the 8800m (gs and gt at least) being a 22-25 watt card is true they probably will have it be mxmII. We are going to have to pay a hefty premium though if that is true since it will be more powerful then this 8700m but will only take about 2/3 of the power.
     
  7. Jason

    Jason Overclocker NBR Reviewer

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    8700m GT. Wow... I was not expecting this. But could it be something similar to the 7700? The 7700 had only a minor improvement over the 7600.
     
  8. Zero

    Zero The Random Guy

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    These cards aren't necessarily weaker. Alot of people imagine the 8 series of cards, to perform very well, and clearly, the performance has been somewhat dull. The fastest mid range card that nVidia had was the 8600M GT, and it performed almost as fast as the Go 7900 GS. Now, thats good for the mid range, because before that, there fastest card was the Go 7700. An 8600M GT is quite a bit faster.

    The 8700M GT comes in to at least offer something to the entusiast market. Clevo and other high end notebook manufacturers always use their graphics options to attract customers, and since they base most of their systems on gaming, nVidia had to release something faster to that particular market. Basically, the 8700M GT has been released to allow nVdia some more time, before they can release a truly powerful card. In every generation, their fastest mobile graphics card has had a 256-bit memory bus. nVidia simply isn't going to abandon that, and they will release another high end graphics card. The thing is it will take time. As ltcommander_data mentioned, nVidia is already a whole process behind ATI, and its costing them, because they can't get that 8800M varient to market.

    ATI needs to really power optimise the HD 2900 XT, before it can be implemented into mobile form. lunateck is correct in saying that ATI will have to make the move to 65nm for the core. ATI is in a similar position to nVidia in developing a high end mobile grapphics card, except ATI are a good 6 months behind nVidia already.

    ATI also hasn't had a giant pressence in the high end graphics card market as of the last few generations. Their products have been late to market, and have not performed the best, in comparison to nVidia's. They largely care about the mid range section, where alot more money is to be made, and thats why they have their mid range cards ready to roll of the production line.
     
  9. link1313

    link1313 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Eh, I wasn't all that impressed. If they put it into a 15.4" I will be.
     
  10. jbizzler

    jbizzler Notebook Consultant

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    I'll wait and see benchmarks. Until then, I'm not holding my breath. It would be AMAZING if it were in a 15'' notebook, especially C90. I think we're not going to ever see 8800Ms. For it to be an 8800, it needs the power-hungry burning core of G80. It'll be more possible with G81, i.e. 8900M.

    I'm hoping for three things now.
    1) I hope we get an enthusiest DX10 notebook card, from NVIDIA or AMD.
    2) I hope the ASUS C80, an X38 Conroe DDR3 notebook, comes out by then as well.
    3) If there is awsome AMD chip by then, but NVIDIA instead, that the C80 supports SLI. We already know it supports Crossfire.

    Knowing ASUS, though, we won't see anything higher than 8700M there. I doubt they'll even have that. But if they're giving it an X38 chipset, they must mean business.
     
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