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Is Windows Defender effective?

Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by System64, Mar 19, 2007.

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Is Windows Defender effective?

Poll closed Jun 27, 2007.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. System64

    System64 Windows 7 x64

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    Is Windows Defender really effective at protecting/removing spyware?

    I scanned for spyware with it, then when i scanned again with Lavasoft's Ad Aware, i get about 14 other spyware. For me it is not effective.
     
  2. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

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    I have Windows Defender on my computer, along with Ad-Aware and Spybot. Windows Defender has never detected any spyware on my computer, while Ad-Aware and Spybot get some every scan.

    Is it a coincidence that every time I use Defender there is no spyware? I think not :p.
     
  3. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    According to the statistics on Windows Defender, it is not successful at the task it seeks to accomplish (Zdnet, 2007; Wikipedia Discussion ~2006).
     
  4. qohelet

    qohelet Senior Member

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    it never catches anything since i used back it last year.
     
  5. shaheenarshan

    shaheenarshan Notebook Deity

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    i had it on my system sometime back maybe a month or so back if im not mistaken and dare i say it was worthless always shows that your system is clean even though it maybe not
    certainly not reliable in my opinion if you wuld like something much more effective i would recommend something like ad-ware personal along with ccleaner atleast thats what does the trick for me
     
  6. Padmé

    Padmé NBR Super Pink Princess

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    I had it on my computers for over 6 months and it never found anything. So I agree with everyone else.
     
  7. Private-Cowboy

    Private-Cowboy Notebook Consultant

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    I had defender pick one up once. Solo it is useless but in cooperation with another suite (like KIS6 that I use) it works ok. I would not pay money for it though. There are better ones out there for sure.
     
  8. Paul

    Paul Mom! Hot Pockets! NBR Reviewer

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    I never really used it. I installed it, but always used other things, and then one day it suddenly became broken for no reason. It never caught anything and never updated like it was supposed to.

    Of course, I now use Ubuntu and don't use an anti-spyware program, so I'm a bit out of the loop.
     
  9. RedSensiStar

    RedSensiStar Notebook Deity

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    I voted no.

    Windows Defender is Windows Pretender.
     
  10. frozen sun

    frozen sun Notebook Consultant

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    which one from the MS stable is NOT a pretender?? :D
     
  11. qohelet

    qohelet Senior Member

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  12. iza

    iza Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't think my windows defender has ever detected anything... I just uninstalled it today; I had forgotten I even had it since all it did was sit in the background invisible taking up resources but not finding anything..
     
  13. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    I have never found any spyware either - but I voted yes.
    I like its ability to show you the most important things when you suspect that something is wrong. Like startup, running, network connected or winsock programs. You can easily find which one shouldn't be there.
    It also does quick scan by default - so perhaps full scan would give some other results. (or not?)
    Many programs like adaware and spybot are very happy to report anything that may be in connection to adware and viruses (that is good in one way). Like cookies perhaps? Temp? So I am always interested when I see everything red and then realise that there is actually nothing wrong with my comp.
    And if you turn on the option to see what changes are being made by the software permitted to run, you would see some nice attempts of questionable behaviour even from the best antivirus programs and utilities. Like why some anti adware software is so eager on cleaning the registry from the menace, and if you uninstall it it leaves its dirty laundry in your registry? Check Norton for example...
    And I also agree with most of the people - it is not meant for cleaning the vermin. It is mostly for alerting when something goes wrong. I have spent more than enough time cleaning all kinds of stuff on my friend's computers with simple notepad, regedit, windows explorer etc... Spybot, AVG, Adaware helped, but not eliminated completely some of the bad things. The last thing you can rely on is actually knowledge of the Windows system - and how it works. Tools are helpers, not solvers.

    And for the end to illustrate the point - a hidden autorun.inf in your disk root that changes the behaviour when you doubleclick disk's icon in Windows Explorer by starting some missing exe or whatever is a menace that no antivirus or adaware will find. Imagine dialog box popping every single time you click to open volume. Check registry - yes there is a new open command. You delete it. Restart - there it happens again. So how would I fix that? By knowing what happens when I doubleclick disk icon in windows explorer. It searches for the autorun.inf BEFORE it actually does the default Open command (or explore). And autorun.inf wants some other program to handle that operation. Here you go - viruslike, adwarelike thing that cannot be solved using any tool. Not even with Defender (Pretender as many people like to call it :))

    I hope I haven't sounded too harsh - but that is how I see it. It is based completely on my personal experience during the last 10 years of professional career.

    Cheers,

    Ivan
     
  14. RedSensiStar

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    Yeah, a study in a few magazines a bit back did extensive tests on all freeware versions of antivirus, spyware, malware, adware, etc. And Windows Defender was like a broken car bender: useless & ugly & a waste of RAM & a waste of 11MB of HD space.
     
  15. Thibault

    Thibault Banned

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    It's never detected anything on my computer.
    I use it with Ad-aware and spybot.

    It did detect something on a friend's computer a few months ago. I had to format the computer since it was infected so bad.
     
  16. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    I guess the moral of the story is to use M$ products with caution!
     
  17. qohelet

    qohelet Senior Member

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    and any products too.... :rolleyes:
     
  18. miner

    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    WD is effective. All of my univ. campus computers have it and it detects most of the spyware. Ofcourse it wont detect anything if you dont have any spyware. Ad-aware detects cookies as well while WD doesnt. So you wont see any spyware infections when you scan the system.
     
  19. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    I have got that impression too. All this fuss about cookies, temp and old registry leftovers. That is why I actually use Spybot and adaware only when I need them. WD helps me deciding when to do that. I think miner is right - WD doesn't report anything because there is nothing to worry about anyway. Hm.

    Ivan
     
  20. ronaldheld

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    It found nothing when I used it for a few weeks, so I stopped using it and went back to Ad-Aware.
     
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