Is laptops innovation dead at the moment

Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by cooldex, Apr 30, 2019.

  1. Deks

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    The idea was that different or existing storage technology is not necessarily an issue... there isn't just enough 'interest' (however we wish to 'describe' it) in it due to existing industry.
    Looking at EV cars for instance on longer trips... that can be remedied with more charging stations.
    The cars and their batteries are quite reliable, and in the myths about EV's that were recently posted in the Guardian, I think I read that no one actually had an issue with running out of battery or having them fail well before the car would (in reality, they are designed to higher standards than laptop batteries to prevent them from charging or emptying all the way and in all likelihood would outlast the car itself).

    However, look at the fossil fuel industry. The people behind it KNEW about climate change decades ago... and yet they actively invested money to NOT publish those papers. Mind you, we did have a pretty good indication that we were lousing up the environment unnecessarily back then (as people like Jacque Fresco who had an interview on Larry King show on national TV pointed out in 1974 - among other things). That's the problem with 'infinite growth on a finite planet' we use. Its fundamentally outdated, idiotic and unsustainable... plundering the Earth for profits when we already could have done so many different things.
    Plus in the existing system, we are using outdated methods of doing things and trying to extract as much as possible from them (which results in massive damage, pollution and loss of biodiversity) without actually noting that we have developed far superior methods of producing abundance decades ago which would easily drop our environmental footprint on Earth by at least 10 times.

    Plus, molten salt batteries aren't really new at all....

    Well, the idea was to discuss things from what types of innovations laptops would benefit from.
    Those would certainly help as they would reduce planned obsolescence and result in greater lifespan of a given component (or a system as a whole). If the laptop (or computer system in general) reaches a point where it can't be viably upgraded or you just want something better, OEM's should really have a program in place to reclaim that older laptop so they can harvest it for its raw materials which can be used to make new laptops/systems.

    I was quite displeased with what Asus and retailers get away with for example.
    Customer service for any company can be stupidly bad... and yet, while people DO point it out, nothing seems to get done on the subject (probably because we don't make enough noise).
     
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  2. AlexusR

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    Speaking of customer service - I was reading the Alienware 51m thread and I noticed some posts with people complaining about issues with Dell's service and service of some resellers including issues with specific compoments, and unfortunately posts like these did get lost in such huge thread. So it's somewhat hard to "make enough noise" about some issues if forums do not provide something like, for example, a sticky thread about "Feedback for Dell and its resellers" or "Issues with Alienware 51m" in an appropriate forum section. And this goes for other brands. Perhaps if more people would be able to quickly find all major issues (without browsing through fluff posts like "I got over 9000 3DShitMarks2027 with Liquid Nitrogen cooling and Akihabara thermal pads") about brand and specific product - the companies and their resellers would be more willing to improve their customer service and their product in general ;-)
     
  3. Richard Zheng

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    Anything that has more replaceable parts than a MBP or Surface is a win in my books
     
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  4. Mr.K-1994

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    You saw the Surface Book? Even if 1 drop of water gets in, it's officially a goner since you would need a HEAT GUN to get inside.

    Apple's products are the worst. Don't call your throttlebooks "Pro" if users can't upgrade RAM or storage, which are the basic prerequisites for a machine to run more than 2 years smoothly and have a bunch of anti-repair dimwits designing it.
     
  5. AlexusR

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    As much as I personally dislike Apple products (I have owned 2 MacBooks Pro so I know all deficiencies) - to be fair whatever they are doing is satisfactory for the people who use it, otherwise they would've changed it ;-) If Apple owners want to pay that much for non-upgradeable hardware with a lot of expensive proprietary accessories - it's just their preference, nothing is bad about that, as long as I personally still have a choice of using something else where I can change parts that matter.
     
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    Thing is, Apple doesn’t NEED to make it hard to upgrade and service them. They simply do so to **** their end users. If you have data on a dead board, it is GONE. No swapping drives, nothing. Dead. Your data is gone.
     
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    I am aware of that. But like I said, if many users are still ok with it - that's their choice ;-) And there's no reason for Apple to change as long as users are happy with what they receive.
     
  8. Richard Zheng

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    Here's the thing. If you got applecare, you are happy. No applecare? No happy
     
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    I think with or without Aplecare you are already unhappy since even if you bought the pack for a few hundred dollars they can still screw you over.
     
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    Gotta love 3 year applecare but you need a new keyboard every 6 months so the days you lose over that lifespan is easily among a month or so of lost work time. Pro laptop my @$$
     
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