Is it worth to get the i7-1065G7 over the i5-1035G1?

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  1. Zeratul

    Zeratul Notebook Guru

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    I'm probably getting the new XPS 13 from Dell, but I'm wondering if the i7-1065G7 offers anything for me over the i5-1035G1 for $250 more.

    I say "me" because I do not game at all, and I'm going to use this notebook mainly for daily office tasks, and weekly programming and statistical software. At most I'd need the 4K@60Hz output, but that is covered by the DisplayPort even on the i5 model.

    I saw benchmarks and the difference seems negligible, so I'd rather get the better screen or save money, unless, of course, I'm missing something I don't know.

    Sorry if this is the wrong section, but I thought that was going to be the most relevant one for this topic.

    Thank you.
     
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    It's ok, but unless it has a dedicated GPU, you definitely want a G7 class CPU i5 or i7 to get the better Integrated graphics. Check to see if they offer the i5-1035G7.

    CPU benchmark wise, they will be about the same (as you found negligible), but the GPU performance is noticeable even during non gaming usage.

    Performance wise, I had a Dell Inspiron 3793 17" I ended up sending back. Before I sent it back, the 25w variant was getting ~700 in CB15 which put it right at i7-4800 Haswell performance level for general computing. The cooling solution in the 3793 was atrocious though.
     
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    $250 more than what?
     
  4. Zeratul

    Zeratul Notebook Guru

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    @electrosoft thanks. I don't need to buy right right now, so I'll be watching for that CPU model.

    The upgrade from the i5-1035G1, to the i7-1065G7, costs $250. So, it is $250 more than the i5-1035G1.

    Everything else is the same. Except for the GPU of course, because that's paired to the CPU.
     
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    Yeah, I got that. $250 more is relative. What is the total cost of the system?

    What are the main/core components you've configured beside the CPU's you're considering?

    What planned upgrades are you considering in that first year of use (RAM, Storage, WiFi card, etc.)?

    $250 more than $500 isn't worth it. $250 more than $1K+ is. If you're keeping your systems for more than 18 months to 5 years or more.

     
  6. Zeratul

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    @tilleroftheearth price is 1299 for the FHD+ matte / 256GB / 16 GB, which are my requirements. I'm also going to spend $259 more for the 4 year warranty. That gives me a base price of 1558, which is already a little more than my pretended but flexible budget.

    No updates planned during the lifetime of the device. And everything but SSD is soldered anyway.

    From that on, it is $250 more for i7 (repeating for completeness), $50 for 512, and/or $300 for the UHD+ screen.

    In the end, I don't mind spending more for the i7, but I don't want to feel like I'm wasting $250 on something I'm not going to need at all, unless there is something really valuable that I don't know in that deal (ignorance about the hardware component). I'm not American, so those $250 are quite a bit for me.

    For me, those $250 are not a deal or steal, so I'm actually "meh" about it. I'm much more willing to pay $50 to double the SSD just because it is only $50. In other words, do you think I'm going to notice/mind the absence of the i7/Iris GPU if I only use it for office, programming, statistical software and maybe amateur video editing here and there?

    Hope all that clears up some confusion I may have made.

    Thanks.
     
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  7. Ed. Yang

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    Blue Camp fanboys will look at the higher clock rate from the i7 vs i5, most likely willing to pay for that gap.
    https://laptopmedia.com/comparisons...5g1-the-smaller-one-is-the-smart-choice-here/
    What i see is the iGPU performance difference which i5 may loose out on.

    However, besides DELL... i suggest that u look around for something else. Low power consumption is not INTEL's winning game anymore.
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-R...7-9750H-a-run-for-its-money-too.465826.0.html
     
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    I see, and you're right, I was.only worried about the GPU alright. I found weird that they compared a 15 to a 13 inch, but I don't know, so I'm not judging. About the xps though, I didn't find anything that could match my needs, stated above, could output 4k@60Hz, and was small enough. Ah, and that had a good warranty that was also valid in the country I live in.

    I'm a little limited in my options. My other options were the X280, which I discarded bc for what I've heard has a bad screen, and the UX333FA, because It doesn't output 4k@60Hz. And they are all Intels anyway.

    I'm also wary of Lenovo. Had my share of disappointments with them. Including my last one (Y910). They have the X395 with AMD though.
     
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    @Zeratul thank you. That $50 towards doubling the SSD capacity is one I would definitely recommend. With your use-cases, the $250 upgrade to the i7-1065G7 will be worthwhile too. More so in a couple of years from now than today, but you will be able to use it much longer than the i5-1035G1.

    Not so much for just the slightly faster CPU (up to 15% in multi-core workloads), but more for the doubling of the performance for the iGPU which your statistical software and video editing workloads would definitely benefit from the relatively small upgrade cost today (depending on the software used).

    See:
    https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compar...i7-1065G7-vs-Intel-i5-1035G1/3403vs3466vs3558

    @Ed. Yang, I could not recommend the model you suggest as the performance in daily (office) tasks are only 82% (over 20% slower) of the i7-1065G7 in purely CPU tasks. That is like buying a CPU from 2015 today.

    I'm not 100% sure, but I also believe the G7 graphics will be superior to the Vega 8 graphics it offers and I'm positive much less battery life.

    Edit: @Ed. Yang not to mention that the AMD powered Lenovo is not really like one configured with an Intel platform too. :)
     
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