Is it safe to format an SSD through Windows 10 Media Toolkit during boot?

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  1. TakedaYabu

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    I have a laptop with an SSD but I need to format it. And the only way for this to happen is through the Windows 10 Media Toolkit in an USB and reinstall it again.

    Is it safe to use the format feature of the Windows Media Tool for the SSD?

    I heard about TRIM Command and Secure Erase Command but I cannot do this since it's my only disk in my PC...
     
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    Why don't you simply run the Windows 10 installer and select manual install to format the SSD?
     
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    Windows can format SSDs but not secure erase.
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    I want to proceed the deletion process as I described through the Windows 10 Media Creation Tool (delete partition and all existing data in the SSD), the SSD won't lose speed or sacrifice performance because of that action?

    I need to make sure that wiping all data through the Delete Partition method (in order to install a fresh Windows 10 afterwards onto a clean drive), won't by any means affect my SSD speed or perfomance
     
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    An SSD's performance is affected by simply reading cells; installing Windows 10 will make it 'old' before you've even used it. In other words; you're worrying about this too much.

    What has given me better SSD performance (i.e. responsiveness) than a brand new, never before used SSD is installing Windows 10 x64 twice. I keep that performance edge by doing a PerfectDisk SMARTPlacement defrag at least monthly (after MS update day; second Tuesday of each month).

    The first time, I still OP the SSD by 33%, but I simply don't use that setup. I immediately reboot the computer, start up the Windows 10 installer again, Format each partition, then delete them.

    I then create a new partition that is OP'd by 33% and this is the Win10x64Pro install that I will use. I don't know why, but the computer is noticeably more responsive than when installing Windows to a brand new SSD the very first time.

    Yeah; I'm very sensitive to having the most responsive system possible.

    About a decade ago, Anand Lal Shimpi from Anandtech.com recommended that exact procedure (not doing the install twice; rather, formatting during setup).


     
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    On the 4TB EVO 850, you're short ~576GB from what I would use. On the 3x 2TB 960 Pro's in RAID0, you're short by only 262GB's. :):p:eek:

    But at these capacities, I think you're good! :D:D:D

    Curious what are you running on this setup? This is obviously(?) not a notebook...
     
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    Check my sig bro, this is my laptop, and the only computer I own.

    Why this setup? simply because I have a gigantic amount of movies collection and I don't like having anything external, and SSDs are the only option to give me such a large capacity. Heck I even have a 512GB SD Card that I dedicate for downloads as to not wear out my SSD more than it is already worn out :rolleyes:
     
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    So everything resides on your taptop? Its better to have an off-site backup or archiving HDDs from Seagate/WD/Hitachi. I always download on HDDs. Maybe you need enterprise SATA SSDs to forget about wear and tear.
    From the screenie it looks like your disk free space is similar to mine, hahaa.. You really take good care of your SSDs.
    He's a taptop user aka MSI Book.
    Does OP'ing really help on modern SSD with so much spare cells and factory OP?
    I feel OP helps if you're writing 50GB or more per day the OP will help to maintain decent write performance on Heavy IO.
     
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    You can certainly try secure erasing SSD and it is rather quick and takes less than 10 secs to restore SSD to pristine state brushing aside already worn NAND/NOR cells.
     
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