Is copying an Audio CD using Nero good?

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  1. Phoenix

    Phoenix Super Tweaker

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    So I just bought a new Audio CD.

    I don't want it all scratched up so I used Nero 2018 to make a copy of it as a backup.

    Now the question is, will the copied CD have the exact same quality as the original or should I use something else?
     
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    If you want absolute lossless quality then you need something that converts from CD to FLAC, but you won't ever hear a difference between MP3 320kbit and FLAC which is lossless. Even with top end headsets, soundcards and settings you won't be able to hear a difference unless you are born with very sensitive ears that can detect very tiny differences.

    So to aswer your question, it's objectively not the same quality but subjectively it is the same quality, since you won't hear a difference.
     
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    well I did rip the CD to FLAC using dbpoweramp and chose lossless quality but that's a different thing, that's me backing up the CD as an audio format on my PC.

    My question is, wouldn't doing a CD to CD copy using Nero result in the same quality? it's not doing any conversion it's just copying the disc as an image then burning that image onto the blank CD?
     
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    Oh, yeah thats the same as it literally copies data and not converting it in any way. So a copied CD is the same as the original.
     
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    I think that's assuming the ripping was flawless. For example if you repeated this process many many times, I think the sound would eventually start to degrade. Though I think the main reason for that would be the surface of the CD itself degrading.

    Anyway I agree generally though, I can barely hear the the difference between a FLAC and 320kbps mp3. But it's not huge and my headphones are expensive. In fact until I got these headphones I didn't think there was a difference myself. If you're using anything reasonably priced that isn't high end audiophile type stuff there should be no difference between those two things. So even if the CD rip to flac loses a slight amount of data there's almost no chance it's audible. And assuming the CD is in good condition it should be fine. Nero should be all good.
     
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    Thanks dude, after reading up more on this, what people said is that as long as you are not ripping them to any other format then the copy should be the same since it retains the exact same info on the original disc with no compression :)
     
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    exacly right.
     
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    people still do this? i haven't done this in years!
     
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    Rip them as .WAV and then convert them after the fact to your preferred format. I like MP3s, I use the LAME encoder and compress them to either 320kbps or VBR (variable bitrate). Apple's AAC format also sounds good to me, you can add the WAV files to iTunes and then convert them right there pretty easily.

    Charles
     
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    My vote goes to iTunes since it preserves all album_info metadata and its compatible over variety of devices.
    If its missing album info use gracenote in iTunes or MusicBrainz Picard.
    I personally convert everything from 320 to 32kbps eAAC+ and enjoy an extra hour on music on my portables and low cpu usage. Snappy Phoenix will dislike this.
     
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