Intel-TongFang QC7 (Element/Fusion 15/MAG-15/Vapor 15 Pro)

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  1. CreatureCore

    CreatureCore Notebook Enthusiast

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    Has anyone found a 180-200watt charger that works with this laptop yet that isnt as big as the stock one? Wondering if the omen one ownordisown showed in his video as a comparison would work as it was a decent bit more compact.
     
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  2. Eluktronics

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    You can get a smaller adapter here:

    https://www.eluktronics.com/230-watt-ac-adapter-P6x0-1070

    The above is what we would have hoped to provide as a standard, but it does cost more. Note, this will be smaller, but still retains the 230 watts which is a necessity. Please don't attempt to strangle your system of power.
     
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    Thanks for the reply, do you happen to have the dimensions for the power brick? Nothing listed on the website.
     
  4. Eluktronics

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    Sorry for the amateur photo. I'm measuring right around 6" x 2.87" x 1.18" vs 7" x 3.31" x 1.25". Sorry, I don't have a postal scale at home to weigh, but they do not feel much different.
     

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    Wow thank you, huge difference. Ill pick that up soon enough. Leave the stock brick by the 27" screen to dock the laptop too.
     
  6. XMG

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    First: Update your BIOS and Control Center.
    Second: check your Task Manager ("Details" tab) for CPU/Software activity. To dig deeper, use Process Explorer. You probably have background tasks running, typical Windows maintenance stuff that might take a while. TiWorker.exe is one very infamous example.

    Q: Can I get a smaller, lighter charger for this laptop?

    A: XMG FUSION 15 requires a 230W power adaptor to provide full performance. If you max out CPU and GPU with furmark and prime, the 230W adapter will be fully utilized.

    There are currently two compatible 230W adapters. They have different dimensions but similar weight. Please refer to this comparison table:

    XMG FUSION 15 Power Supply Comparsion Table (Google Drive)

    Includes shop links. I also included 120W, 150W and 180W in this table. They all share the same plug (5.5/2.5,, diameter, 12.5mm length). But 120W and 150W are only rated for 19V but the laptop expect 19.5V. Usually this will be compensated by tolerance but we haven't tested how a system would behave under long-term usage with such an adaptor.

    In theory, 120W to 180W are enough for charing the laptop and for browsing/web/media. Even a full CPU stress test could easily be handled. But as soon as you use CPU and GPU together, you'll run into the bottleneck and your performance will be reduced.

    This laptop includes an IR (infrared) Camera for Windows Hello facial recognition. But I'm 99.9% sure it does not have official Intel RealSense support. Why?
    • Intel's spec sheet does not list RealSense
    • There is no factory option for RealSense upgrades either
    • Intel's driver list does not list RealSense drivers
    • The DeviceID of Webcam and IR Cam do not look like RealSense camera
    • The Webcam resolution and sharpness does not look like RealSense
    If other brands list this as a "RealSense" camera, I would strongly assume it to be a mistake - they might have just derived that assumption from it being a Windows Hello-compatible IR camera. But the spec requirements for Intel RealSense (especially depth detection) are much tighter than the requirements for Windows Hello.

    Here are the Device ID's, taken from HWiNFO64 report:

    Webcam

    [Device Information]
    Device Manufacturer: Chicony
    Product Name: -
    Serial Number: -
    USB Version Supported: 2.01
    USB Device Speed: USB 2.0 High-speed
    Driver Description: USB Composite Device
    Hardware ID: USB\VID_04F2&PID_B68B

    [Driver Information]
    Driver Manufacturer: (Standard USB Host Controller)
    Driver Description: USB Composite Device
    Driver Provider: Microsoft
    Driver Version: 10.0.17763.1
    Driver Date: 20-Jun-2006
    DeviceInstanceId USB\VID_04F2&PID_B68B\01.00.00
    Location Paths PCIROOT(0)#PCI(1400)#USBROOT(0)#USB(13)

    Infrared Camera (IR Camera) for Windows Hello

    [Device Information]
    Device Manufacturer: ITE Tech. Inc.
    Product Name: ITE Device(8291)
    Serial Number: N/A
    USB Version Supported: 2.00
    USB Device Speed: USB 1.1 Full-speed
    Driver Description: USB Composite Device
    Hardware ID: USB\VID_048D&PID_CE00

    [Driver Information]
    Driver Manufacturer: (Standard USB Host Controller)
    Driver Description: USB Composite Device
    Driver Provider: Microsoft
    Driver Version: 10.0.17763.1
    Driver Date: 20-Jun-2006
    DeviceInstanceId USB\VID_048D&PID_CE00\5&24FB7DE3&0&6
    Location Paths PCIROOT(0)#PCI(1400)#USBROOT(0)#USB(6)


    Meanwhile, this just in from Intel:

    New Official EC/BIOS Release: BIOS 0056

    Download Link:
    https://download.schenker-tech.de/package/xmg-fusion-15-xfu15l19/
    (at the bottom of the page)

    This time in 2 different formats, pick one for yourself.

    1) CAP for EFI-internal F7 Update Tool or EFI Shell:
    Filename:
    Bios-XMG_FUSION15_XFU15L19_BIOS_QCFL357.0056_EFI-CAP.zip
    Please read the Update Procedure PDF file.

    2) Win64 to run in Windows with Admin Rights:
    Filename:
    Bios-XMG_FUSION15_XFU15L19_BIOS_QCFL357.0056_Win64.zip
    This will reboot the system, use with caution!
    This will automatically reboot the system. Use with caution! Save all work and close all programs before running this update.
    Do not manually shut down or reboot the system during the update.
    Do not remove the external power supply during the update.

    Standard Recommendations after BIOS Update:
    • After the update procedure is finished, reboot and enter BIOS Setup [F2]
    • Open [Exit] menu; select and confirm [Restore Defaults] but do not reboot yet
    • Open [Boot] menu and enter [Boot Priority]
    • Find [Fast Boot] and set it to [Enabled]
    • Back in [Exit] category, select [Save Changes and Exit], Reboot & Finish

    Changelog:
    • Fixed Accidental Wake-up Event from Sleep/Standby (S3) (!)
    • Improved compatibility with USB-C/DP Adapters during Reboot and Cold Boot
    • Improved compatibility with Thunderbolt Docking stations (new Thunderbolt Firmware and Driver will be supplied shortly)

    Any questions, please let us know.

    Cheers,
    XMG|Tom
     
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  7. ezradharma

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    Is it just me or does the QC7 share a ton of parts with the last gen TF mechanical keyboard chassis.?
     
  8. eddi3x3x3

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    Yes, the maingear element listed on the maingear site claims the same chassis (it looks like it is, correct me if I'm wrong) supports Intel real sense which I thought was odd

    Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk
     
  9. CreatureCore

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    I saw a laptop of maingears at microcenter, it looked like the qc7 but slightly different. Just as small but number pad keyboard and rubber coating like the Lenovos. It also had a nose cam. They knew nothing about the laptop that has their name on it just that it was an upcoming model. Also couldn't say anything really about the qc7 chassis. Looked them up online, very mediocre reviews vs a trusted company like eluktronics. I'm going to stick with them even though maingear is 30 min away in NJ from me vs 90 for eluktronics.
     
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    Also I'd like to mention I sent you some info on reddit for a point of contact for the project aurora. Not sure if you got the message but I wanted to verify that you got it.
     
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