Intel kills off the 10nm process

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  1. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    You can repeat yourself ad nauseam, doesn't negate what I originally stated. Roadmaps mean squat as everyone knows from both Intel, AMD, MS and any other corporation you care to mention. Waste of my time to even begin to guess where the money will move to next.

    I'm sticking to reality, you can stick to your theories and dance moves each time the ball is in the other court. ;)

  2. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOK's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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    Intel Qualifying 10nm Ice Lake CPUs, Expects First Full-Year Revenue Decrease In Three Years | April 25, 2019
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  3. ajc9988

    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Dude, you are a known intel shill which has projects solely dependent on high single threaded core count. You pushed hardware acceleration without realizing that Adobe, in that same update, at least from some people I know, said they gimped the performance on their 7980XE with that update. Adobe is NOT aging well compared to their competitors, which have invested in parallelizing the work done by their engine to get more performance.

    Now, there are still questions surrounding Ryzen's next release. If they did match the 9900K stock for stock with their 65W 8-core chip, then there is reason to believe Intel will be matched this round, maybe keeping the single thread crown due to overclocking ability, while losing all multi-threaded workloads, the power requirements, the core density, etc.

    AMD is expected to overshoot Intel's current IPC on the 9900K. If they cannot reach a high enough frequency, then it won't beat the single thread performance though. Intel is set to take the IPC crown back with Sunny Cove. Problem is, if the roadmap is to be believed, the Ice Lake with Sunny Cove will run lower frequencies and only be mobile, while Comet Lake doesn't arrive until next year, potentially (at least for commercial use, as the SIP was presented to Dell in a closed presentation leaked, and commercial OEM builds can lag consumer releases for Intel by a couple quarters, meaning that the 10-core Comet lake may reach consumers in Q4, or make a CES appearance).

    As such, you keep talking, but your predictions and comments are aging less well as you speak. Maybe look up at which ways the winds blow.
  4. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    Just one question, if you do not care then why the comments? Just let the performance in the end speak for itself. I think most, can make from the information available out there, a good guess what that will be in the near future.
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  5. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    At least 2 more years until Intel releases 7nm, in 2021... before Intel's 10nm Desktop CPU's in 2022?, and Intel may still be on 14nm through the 7nm / 10nm-Desktop launches, and beyond...

    AMD is leaving Intel in the dust on die size, with no 7nm Intel chips until 2021
    By Jonathan Terrasi — Posted on July 19, 2019 10:52AM PST

    "At Aspen, Colorado’s Brainstorm Tech 2019 conference this week, Intel CEO Bob Swan shed some light on the future of Intel’s fabrication process by remarking that Intel is planning on beginning production on a 7nm die for its processors in 2021.

    The revelation follows only two months after the company’s Computex 2019 announcement of its first 10nm processors, the Ice Lake line, left many observers wondering when the CPU giant would catch up to its nimbler rival AMD, which showed off 7nm processors the day before.

    Not only is Intel just reaching 10nm manufacturing as AMD rolls out 7nm chips, but the Ice Lake chips Intel showed off are not intended for desktops, but exclusively for mobile or versatile 2-in-1 devices.

    This admission of Intel’s shortcomings makes for a welcome sign for AMD, validating their aggressive strategy of die shrinks and price undercutting.

    Beyond AMD’s flashy Computex 2019 launch for its 7nm Ryzen 3000 CPUs, the manufacturer also has a threadripper waiting in the wings that Intel has no plans of contending with.

    Confidence is running so high over at AMD that they are also taking the GPU fight to Nvidia in a big way. Earlier this week, a high-level AMD executive boasted about duping Nvidia into setting less-than-competitive prices against AMD’s Ryzen RX 5700.

    Intel’s woes don’t end with AMD’s lead on die size, either. If Microsoft goes forward with its rumored switch to Qualcomm, Intel will suddenly lose out on a massive opportunity to supply the highest-selling device in the tablet product category..."

    A Look Inside Intel with CEO Robert Swan
    Fortune Magazine
    Published on Jul 16, 2019
    He’s been at the helm since January 2019.

    Intel’s New CEO Blames Years-Long Chip Delay on Being Too ‘Aggressive’
    By Aaron Pressman, July 16, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2019 at 5:54 PM
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