Intel i9 18 core announced

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  1. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    By new "Optane" release's I meant beyond the M.2 PCIE x4 storage, which will even work in AMD builds.

    There's supposed to be a new connection between Intel RAM and CPU not CPU and storage, which may appear to be a fine distinction, but PCIE x4 M.2 just isn't fast enough to take Optane as far as it's promised speeds.
     
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    Papusan BGABOOK's = That sucks!! STAHP! Dont buy FILTH...

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    the m.2 optane cache drive isnt intel's first optane device though, their first is P4800X HHHL pcie card, so yes it'll work on x299. also what asus stated with their card was that, you can use SSDs other than intel's SSD its just that they won't be bootable, only intel's SSDs are bootable and raid capable via cpu lanes.

    btw you were at computex right? anything new for flagship from clevo and MSI?

    PCIE 4, upcoming m.2 pcie 4 x 4 lanes SSD http://www.tomshardware.com/news/silicon-motion-pcie-4.0-2018,34660.html#sthash.l2sOVsIx.gbpl
     
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    Thanks, but again, I am not talking about M.2 PCIE x4 or boards that are PCI-E x4.

    I'm talking about most likely x8 / x16 speeds, perhaps a new protocol and physical interface which probably needs a new motherboard chipset + new motherboard (of course).

    Which is why I don't think an X299 is a good long term solution.
     
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    Yes, correct. That is how I understand it too.

     
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    I think it's going to be more for enterprise users with parallel processing needs while Intel still dominates with people who need single core performance.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Edit: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-7900x-skylake-x,5092-11.html
    So, tom's could not do above 4.6 on the 10-core, so went with a water chiller.

    Edit 2: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/intel_core_i9_7900x_processor_review,22.html

    "Issues - Hardware P states
    I won't lie, the past two weeks with the Core i7 7900X and the X299 boards I have tested have been an absolute challenge. Memory XMP profiles would not stick, power consumption with one BIOS was OK, the other through the roof. But most of all the processor performance was all over the place. We've seen perf differences of up-to 20% in-between merely different motherboards. MSI however with it's latest BIOS seems to have found equilibrium. Now the biggest fight the two weeks was ironically game performance, it was severely lacking. Example a platform like this should run Rise of the Tomb Raider at 140 FPS at 1080p on a GeForce GTX 1080. We'd end up at 90~100 FPS. And that problem occurred with pretty much all games. I have been discussing this with the motherboard partners (as yes it is widespread) and we all agreed, it has everything to do with 'hardware P states' that Intel recommends to leave enabled for the new platform. Intel recommends certain power states to keep the TDP in line, as otherwise they simply cannot achieve that 140W TDP. For most overall tests that worked out okay enough, but specifically the toll on game performance was abysmal. Days before this launch MSI however released and provided a new BIOS, this restored the performance to what it needs to be. But as you have been able to see, the power consumption is certainly on that high-side. In the end though, the performance is there, but we do expect several BIOS updates that will have an effect in performance overall, in gaming and on power-consumption. "

    "Two things I find to be significantly bothersome, this launch is clouded by too many architectures and processors that really haven't been released. You can choose from 4 to 10 cores, which is fine. However Intel went big with announcement on 12, 14, 16 and even a 2000 USD 18-core part. The 12-core version should see the light next month, however the last three are nowhere to be found and I am starting to doubt that you'll see them anytime soon. The latest indication is October. Sure perhaps a review here and there to show off that Intel can do it. But retail availability? I don't know man. So this all is cloudy and confusing really."
     
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    Here is the review roundup (just collection of all review links) from WCCFTech:
    http://wccftech.com/intel-core-x-skylake-x-kaby-lake-x-cpu-review-roundup-x299-platform/

    Edit:

    Anandtech Intel Core i9-7900X
    Intel Core i7-7820X
    Intel Core i7-7800X Skylake-X ASRock X299 Taichi
    MSI X299 Gaming Pro Carbon
    GIGABYTE X299 Gaming 9
    Hothardware Intel Core i9-7900X
    Intel Core i7-7740X Skylake-X
    Kaby Lake-X ASUS Prime-X299 Deluxe
    Coolaler Intel Core i9-7900X
    Intel Core i7-7740X Skylake-X
    Kaby Lake-X AORUS X299 Gaming 7
    Techbang Intel Core i9-7900X
    Intel Core i7-7820X Skylake-X ASUS Prime-X299 Deluxe
    Overclock3D Intel Core i7-7820X Skylake-X ASUS X299-A Prime
    PCOnline Intel Core i7-7820X Skylake-X ASUS Prime-X299 Deluxe
    PCPer Intel Core i9-7900X Skylake-X ASUS Prime-X299 Deluxe
    Tomshardware Intel Core i9-7900X Skylake-X MSI X299 Gaming Pro Carbon AC
    Tech Report Intel Core i9-7900X ASUS Prime-X299 Deluxe
    TweakTown Intel Core i9-7900X Skylake-X AORUS X299 Gaming 9
    Guru3D Intel Core i9-7900X Skylake-X MSI X299 GAMING Pro Carbon
    PCWorld Intel Core i9-7900X Skylake-X ASUS Prime-X299 Deluxe
    Hardware.info Intel Core i9-7900X Skylake-X ASUS Prime-X299 Deluxe
    4Gamer Intel Core i9-7900X Skylake-X ASUS ROG STRIX X299-E GAMING
    Mobile01 Intel Core i9-7900X Skylake-X ASUS Prime-X299 Deluxe
    HardwareCanucks Intel Core i7-7740X Kaby Lake-X ASUS ROG STRIX X299-E GAMING
    Vortez Intel Core i7-7740X Kaby Lake-X AORUS X299 Gaming 3
    Expreview Intel Core i7-7740X Kaby Lake-X AORUS X299 Gaming 7
    Bit-Tech Intel Core i9-7900X Skylake-X Not Mentioned
    Hexus Intel Core i9-7900X Skylake-X Not Mentioned
     
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