Intel Core i9-9900k 8c/16t, i7-9700K 8c/8t, i7-9600k 6c/6t 2nd Gen Coffee Lake CPU's + Z390

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  1. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    See, that's what I thought, most people reporting here on NBR also say they can get 5.0ghz on all core OC on the 9900K already, and that was months ago - a year now? - perhaps the production since has been filtered with Intel keeping the best for the KS release?

    It's nice though to get a new KS series using the same socket with more headroom, and hopefully for the same or lower price. :)
     
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    @iunlock got 5.5Ghz? 5ghz seems to be fairly common IMO. The 9900KS is just a binned chip like the 8086K so nothing special most likely.
     
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    I mean I have seen some websites talked about revamped Turbo Boost algorithm to yield significant gains in multi-core performance. We will have to see how this will pans out.
     
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    sounds to me like an unlimited turbo boost, as long as thermals / wattage are in check. cpu going gpu route?

    Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Hardware Unboxed upgrades their GPU test bench with one of the worlds most expensive 9900K's just in time for the new AMD and Nvidia GPU testing.

    The real star of this review is the watercooled motherboard.

    And, maybe it will be this new motherboard + 9900K's last hurrah, because after the AMD 12c/24t 3900X CPU is benchmarked... :)

    This 9900K Does 5.1 GHz Out Of The Box! Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Xtreme Waterforce 5G
    Hardware Unboxed
    Published on Jun 30, 2019
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Intel's been bad again, raising up the price of the 9900K from $488 to $513 USD (MSRP) by adding an "S" for "Special Edition" as the 9900KS, and reducing the 9900KS warranty from 3 years to 12 months!!

    All of this seems to have not made much if any difference to benchmarks run by Gamers Nexus with the good 'ole 9900K stock results beating out the 9900KS stock depending on the test - why? With such small improvements came large power draw increases as well as is typical when pushing the 9900K to top OC.

    Why not get a nice 9900K and tune it for best performance with less power draw, and 3x the warranty? Maybe this will give Intel a good excuse to reduce the price of the 9900k?

    Maybe it's time to switch to AMD what with the new 9900KS @ $513 price so close to the Ryzen 3900x price of $529? You could also get an 8c/16t AMD 3700x for $200 less @ $329 than the 9900KS.

    Bitwit's own Intel 9900K beat out the new Intel 9900KS Sample sent to them...

    Intel also sent out Qualification Samples (QS) 9900KS's to reviewers (in retail packaging), so Hardware Unboxed went out and bought retail 9900KS for their testing.

    Intel has really hit rock bottom, scraping the bottom of the barrel to get any kind of upgrade differentiation from 14nm. There aren't enough +++'s left to get any kind of performance upgrade. The only good thing Intel did was bump up the TDP of the 9900KS to 127w - and yet that's still not representing the real power draw at 5.0ghz+ all cores gaining on 200w+.

    Intel Core i9-9900KS Review, Winner of 2019's Most Boring CPU Award (Short)
    Published on Oct 30, 2019


    Intel i9-9900KS Review: Overclocking, Power, & Gaming CPU Benchmarks (Long)
    Gamers Nexus
    Published on Oct 30, 2019
    Our Intel i9-9900KS review & benchmark covers the 9900K vs. 9900KS differences, overclocking, power consumption, MCE and TDP/frequency, and the AMD R9 3900X. Our benchmarks today look at the best processors for gaming, Adobe Premiere (video editing), Blender/3D art, and more. We talk about the Intel i9-9900KS vs. 9900K differences and whether it's "worth it," part of which requires a refresher on MCE and what "5GHz" means to various motherboard manufacturers. For future search phrases, we'll note that anyone wondering why their Intel i9-9900KS isn't 5GHz can find the answer in this video -- it's probably because turbo duration limits are being followed. Enabling MCE would "fix" this, sort of, but at costs discussed in the video. Our CPU benchmarks look additionally at the R9 3900X vs. Intel i9-9900KS, 9900KS stock vs. 9900KS 5.2GHz, and add some other CPUs like the R5 3600 or i7-8700K for perspective.


    Well this is awkward...My golden sample 9900K BEAT the 9900KS (Short)
    Bitwit
    Published on Oct 30, 2019
    The Intel Core i9-9900KS is here...but don't throw out your 9900K just yet (or ever).


    TechYes Australia are getting restless, they want more than the 9900KS is offering, they want AMD level performance upgrades from Intel. AFAIK Intel's completely run out of "gas" and any such process upgrades from Intel are literally 2 years away...

    i9-9900KS OVERCLOCKED Review - Intel Makes It's Own Silicon Lottery! (short)
    Tech YES City
    Published on Oct 30, 2019
    Intel have launched their i9-9900KS, and.... well... it's just more of the same with higher clock speeds (a 5GHz gaurentee). Though that aside let's take it for a whirl in some games and productivity, and compare it to the Ryzen 7 3700X and Ryzen 9 3900X.


    TechDeals remembers that the 3900x is a better gaming streamer for games that actually use 8 cores for gaming, as well as other multi-core advantages of the 3900x - VM's are a great one.

    Intel i9-9900KS vs R9 3900X — Battle of the $500 CPU — Deep Dive Into Gaming & Non-Gaming Benchmarks (long)
    Tech Deals
    Published on Oct 30, 2019
    1:31 - i9-9900K vs i9-9900KS
    1:59 - Ryzen 9 3900X
    2:27 - Ryzen 7 3700X
    3:21 - Which CPU Should You Buy?
    4:14 - Intel CPU Upgrade Options
    5:10 - Real World CPU Swaps
    7:06 - Detailed "Which Should You Buy?" Discussion
    8:17 - Twitch/Mixer Live Streaming CPU
    10:00 - Intel has "HD Graphics"!
    10:48 - Benchmarks - Test Bench Config
    12:35 - Far Cry New Dawn
    16:00 - Ghost Recon Breakpoint
    19:51 - Shadow of the Tomb Raider
    24:51 - Productivity Benchmarks
    28:31 - Conclusion & Wrap Up
     
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    The Intel 9900KS is not a bad CPU, the main advantage being that it is essentially a binned 9900K, therefore you can run higher overclocks if you're thermally limited vs a normal 9900K. So if folks want to spend $40 more (or whatever the exact figure is) to get a 9900KS instead of a normal 9900K, then that's their judgement call, it might mean they don't need to spend so much on a cooling solution - you could take the 9900KS allow it to run with MCE on the motherboard so it sticks to 5Ghz and then undervolt it. It's not a very exciting CPU release, it's just got a more efficient voltage/frequency curve than a standard 9900K, it's a little better for a little more money.

    That warranty shenanigans is a bit off though, that's not good. How important is that though, who's had a CPU fail on them, I've never had one fail in any laptops or desktops I've had for instance - gotta weigh up the pros & cons and make your purchase decisions.
     
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    In 20 years after shipping literally 10s of thousands Intel CPUs...2 have failed.

    It is what it is...like @Robbo99999 says, a bit better for a bit more...no reason to make a fuss over it.
     
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    Could you possibly be any more of a drama queen? Seriously, this shtick is beyond tiresome.
     
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    If reducing the long term 9900K Intel warranty from 3 years to 12 months for the 9900ks is no big deal, then why did Intel take the trouble to reduce warranty - right after jacking up the 9900ks power rating and pushing the CPU out of the box to 5.0ghz all core Turbo?

    Coincidence? Intel don't think so, and neither do I. :)

    IMHO, Intel's bean counters ran the numbers and decided there was too much liability when stressing out the 9900k to the maximum power / Turbo as a 9900ks to risk keeping the warranty at the full 3 years, so Intel did the prudent thing and reduced their liability to 12 months.

    Is a 9900ks really worth $25 more, 2 years less Intel warranty, for essentially nothing more than you can get with a 9900k OC? I don't think so.

    But, I'm sure vendors will tell you not to worry, Intel doesn't know what they are doing - everything's just fine, how many would you like to order today? :)
     
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