Intel Core i7-8750H/ i7-8850H/ i9-8950H Coffee Lake

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  1. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox Undefiled BGA-Hating Elitist

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    I'm going to go out on a limb and take a scientific wild ass guess and say that it will be waaaayyy lots less than 8700K. It may even struggle to keep up with 7700K. Here are some standards you can use for comparison if you want to use 8700K as the target.

    http://hwbot.org/submission/3820387_mr._fox_cpu_frequency_core_i7_8700k_5510.73_mhz

    http://hwbot.org/submission/3823131_mr._fox_xtu_core_i7_8700k_2930_marks

    http://hwbot.org/submission/3823629_mr._fox_wprime___32m_core_i7_8700k_2sec_540ms

    http://hwbot.org/submission/3826964_mr._fox_wprime___1024m_core_i7_8700k_1min_19sec_242ms

    http://hwbot.org/submission/3826962_mr._fox_cinebench___r11.5_core_i7_8700k_19.74_points

    http://hwbot.org/submission/3826961_mr._fox_cinebench___r15_core_i7_8700k_1788_cb


    Accuracy is optional where advertisement is concerned. In most cases it's not even close to accurate.
    This is what happens when you hire an undernourished little boy to do a man's job. Even pushed to double stock TDP it falls about 60-80W short of a full load compared with a real CPU.
     
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  2. Ionising_Radiation

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    Not bothering with Coffee Lake, after all, I think. NVidia is MIA with its new architecture, and Ice Lake is supposedly arriving next year.

    I'll get some random netbook to service my university needs 'til then.
     
  3. knibbler

    knibbler Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't have the X9 yet so I can't test anything but I think it's safe to assume nobody would expect the 8950hk to even remotely able to compare to the 8700k for overclocked benchmarks. I thought that was obvious.

    However comparing the two at stock speeds with only available undervolts applied would be interesting for many consumers.
     
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  4. ThePerfectStorm

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    This. Comparing a 95W 8700K to a 45W 8950HK is stupid. It is obvious that the 8700K is vastly superior. It is obvious that anyone who wants the absolute maximum speed out of their laptop should go with a Clevo with an 8700K.

    However, 1080p gamers (since except the AW17, the Asus G703, MSI GT75, Aorus X9 DT (the main 17" releases in the first wave of CFL-H) are all sporting 1080p panels) may not be all that much worse off with the 8950HK.


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  5. Falkentyne

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    Depends on several things:
    1) if the system can keep the CPU from reaching 100C (the REPASTED Alienware 17R5 couldn't, when overclocked slightly past the max turbo multiplier, no one knows if the MSI GT75 Titan can or not, after REPASTED--but it's been 100% proven that it can *NOT*, with the stock "Lairdtech" paste @Papusan )
    2) if the EC doesn't shut the laptop off, if you DO manage to keep the CPU under 100C and then push the clocks past 4.4 ghz on all cores (MSI laptops love to do this if you exceed a preset CPU amps load).
     
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    Do you think the Aorus X9 DT would be able to stay under 90C at OC level 3 (4.3GHz all cores) with Conductonaut and good heatsink contact?


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    Conductonaut, yes.
    Kryonaut or any other traditional paste: NO.
     
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  8. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOKS = That sucks!! STAHP! Dont buy FILTH...

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    First results ticking in from Alienware Camp (Aw17R5 - New Tripod and i9-8950Hk). 95C and cant even get to 4 Ghz. Where is that adverticed up to 5.0GHz by Dell?o_O 90-95°C degrees means thermal throttling!! Of course clocks will drop. And max clocks will already drop once Cpu temp pass 50°C due the new Thermal Velocity Boost (TVB) feature.
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    Yeah, it does seem that LM will be mandatory for all notebooks with i9, if one wants to run anywhere near 4.3 on all cores.
     
  10. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOKS = That sucks!! STAHP! Dont buy FILTH...

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    From the brand new refreshed Msi GT75 Titan with i9-8950Hk vs. i7-8700K (All stock clocked). The unlocked i9-8950Hk in Gt 75 can barely run 3.6/3.7GHz all cores. 8700K run full 4.3GHz boost the way it is meant to be.
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