Intel AC 7260 Ping Spikes in League of Legends and other games

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  1. Aivxtla

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    Disable Packet Coalesing (it aggregates packets before transmit to increase transfer rates and reduce CPU usage but can conversely cause latency spikes) another thing is to reduce Roaming Agressiveness to low (If you have a lot of nearby APs. Both these options are found in the device’s advanced settings.

    If nothing else try the newer 8265/9260 or a Broadcom card or the Qualcomm QCA6174A (it’s the non Killer Branded 1535). I usually recommend the original non branded cards vs the Killer marketing as I feel it’s a ripoff if priced higher as they provide nothing over the stock 6174A other than that Suite and drivers are just stock QCA ones.

    As for yrekabakery you will find quite a few people with issues with the 6174A for every one on an Intel card to the point where Dell was giving 8260/8265 cards as replacements. Not due to the hardware per se but due to Qualcomm’s drivers. Then again you also have various factors such as AP compatibility and antenna placement within different laptops leading to different results between cards.
     
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    And you will also find hundreds if not thousands of forum and Reddit posts complaining about the ping spikes on the Intel cards dating back as far as the AC 7260, and people are still reporting such ping spikes with the 8265 that may or may not be resolved by WLAN Optimizer.
     
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    Thanks for these suggestions guys. I will be trying them out and will report back if anything improves.
     
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    Have anyone tried using PingPlotter?

    Post #14 here seems to do a good job of analysis of this issue...

    https://communities.intel.com/thread/111336

    Unfortunately post #15 sounds like a moron with his "official" response. Smdh. Jonathan B sounds like a tool in general.

    Post #22 suggests downgrading to driver version 19.20.0.6 to eliminate issues.

    Post #32 suggests driver version 19.80.0.3 is best.

    Looks like I have some more variables to try.

    It is unfortunate Intel already locked down that thread from late 2017... They don't seem to care at all.

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    Also, I updated my initial post in this thread with a shot of my wifi adapter chip in case it matters. (Not sure which numbers were the ones I should be hiding though in case I should black out more of them.)
     
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    On both my 7260 and previous 62xx WiFi I always had to disable the ScanWhenAssociated key in regedit or I would have lag spikes in every game, Intel reps said for years that they would fix in the newest and latest driver, never did so.
     
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    WLAN Optimizer automates this. ;)
     
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    As of approximately 1 year ago, the drivers were seemingly confirmed broken by more than one person (at least for the 8265 specifically, although the driver packages being issued by Intel include coverage for the 7260 as well as the 8265). We all know how serious Intel is about addressing critical issues. ;) It was also stated by more than one person that even using WLAN Optimizer had no effect.

    Can anyone confirm it's all fixed up now? Or point to specific instructions on how to make the registry edit necessary if that is a viable solution at this point?

    Screenshot_20180516-152251.jpg
     
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    This has been going on for many years, not just 1 year. I was using WLAN Optimizer to fix Intel driver's ping spikes 8 years ago when I first got into laptops. Like I said, part of how WLAN Optimizer works is it creates that reg key and sets it to 0. That's why there's a WipeOut.reg file in the WLAN Optimizer folder to restore the default registry settings if you decide to delete the program. The downside with using the program or setting the key manually is it effectively disables roaming, which can be problematic when you're moving around a lot. And I've also had rare problems discovering or connecting with certain public wireless networks when using WLAN Optimizer, although this was years ago and on much older 6 series Intel cards.
     
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    But, its a program running on background/on startup, doing the edit on regedit takes 2 minutes, and at the time I didn't know the program, but I know that regKey by name, changed it in so many laptops from friends..
     
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    That registry change alone didn't fix Intel's ping spikes for me. I had to also check "Enable Streaming Mode" in WLAN Optimizer to fix it.
     
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    I'm not running Intel WiFi cards anymore, Killer, for all the flak that they get are still better than the Intel wifi cards, no random drops/spikes, but thanks for referring that one, I will check it in my friends laptops.
     
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    Killer is just a QoS suite they don’t make cards nor their drivers, they simply rebrand the QCA6174A (1435/1535) and Intel 9260ac (1550) . The suite is known to cause DPC latency issues. Even my Inspiron came with Killer’s software (SmartByte in my case) and I usually recommend its removal as it caused many people headaches.


    Killer sells both Intel and Qualcomm. I think you mean you like the QCA6174A. :) Just saying so if you go the QCA route you can get the original QCA labeled one if cheaper since it’s seems quite a few who buy the Killer branded one don’t install the QoS suite anyway.
     
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    Yup, I'm running just the .inf drivers, between latency spikes and memory leaks in older Killer software thingies, but the hardware puts anything by Intel up to the 7260AC(never bought any Intel WiFi card after that model, tired of the ping spikes that started in the 3260 models that was never fixed) in a corner.
     
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    This is exactly why I switched to Killer a few years ago starting from the 1525 and never looked back. I'm using the Killer 1535 now. Even though WLAN Optimizer fixed the ping spikes for me on the AC 7260 and older Intel cards, I still get lower ping and less jitter on the Killer cards, which translates into a slightly but tangibly improved online gaming experience. I installed the INF wireless and Ethernet (my model also has the E2500) drivers using Device Manager, no Killer Suite. Lower and more consistent latency, and no more ping spikes without needing a reg edit or separate app.
     
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