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  1. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Laptops for consumers still money some money, if they do those greedy tricks on workstation or business laptops they'll lose business.
     
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    Starlight5 So what if I'm crazy? The best people are.

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    Actually IBM did that too, before selling PC business to Lenovo. They went as far as whitelisting storage on some Thinkpads, and then some more dirty tricks.
     
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    So now that we know there is bad info about Lenovo.... Who wants to be nice and definitive about what models are whitelisted and to what extent?
    Seams to me that could be a whole permanent thread or perhaps a data base.

    And just to confirm the info.... all statements to be written in you own blood please



    Now that's better.
     
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  4. Starlight5

    Starlight5 So what if I'm crazy? The best people are.

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    @BlameTheEx FWIW Y50-70 is pretty old (Haswell) machine so my original statement still stands. To clarify, the greedy bastards removed whitelist from newer machines; they did not remove whitelist in newer BIOS revisions of old ones.
     
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    @Starlight

    Does seem to be the case.

    I am just miffed because the family have two of them Y50-70. Lots wrong with their build quality & support. Shame cause they are still blistering fast for a general use machine (no longer perhaps as games machines) and the screens are excellent.

    If anything has come out of my woes it is a determination to check the integrity of the manufacturer and not just the specification.

    Um. Is there a laptop manufacturer with integrity? I sort of thought Dell would be a fair bet but noticed some really high spec machines that they failed to offer Win 10 support for.
     
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    Dell at least let you do self upgrades without voiding warrant WiFi card and all, even before the FTC declared voiding warranty for upgrades illegal. They also have replaced refurb laptops after complaints of minor issues with next gen fully specced 4K models. I spent $700 for a 7567 and got a $1,400 replacement 7577 in Jan of last year.

    If you want proper long term support, you usually buy Workstations, ie Latitudes/Precisions. In Lenovo’s case ThinkPads. Y Series is like an Inspiron you can get high specs but don’t expect like 5 years of bios/firmware updates. Drivers on manufacturer sites are always behind those available on Intel/nVidia/Realtek sites so you can manually get those by going to respective sites. Reason is manufacturers don’t post latest drivers available as they need to ensure no new issues popped up in latest drivers in which case customers would blame them and not nVidia/Realtek/Intel etc.

    Plus even if manufacturer doesn’t say anything about Win 10 it doesn’t mean you can’t install it or get drivers. If you really want you can easily find the latest component drivers on Intel/nVidia’s sites for GPUs and Realtek site for Audio. I had Win 10 on 2012 Latitudes without issue I just let Windows install the drivers.
     
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    Starlight5 So what if I'm crazy? The best people are.

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    @BlameTheEx most consumer machines, especially those made by manufacturers with established business lines - Dell, HP, Lenovo - are absolute crap. Judging a machine by brand alone is a very bad idea, it's like expecting Chevrolet Cruze to be similar to Chevrolet Corvette.
     
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    @Starlight

    Kinda reached that conclusion too. Which is why the latest laptop I bought has been a Zbook G1.
    But given the heavier price of professional machines I have to push my luck with an older one... and risk finding that the manufacturer is just about to discontinue all support. Its why I didn't get another Dell. Don't know that HP will continue support but I already know that Dell failed to provide Windows 10 drivers for some damned good machines. Didn't hurt that the Dell equivalent would have cost more.

    As to why I got a Y50-70. Well I kinda figured it was crap but I panicked after a Win 10 update locked my Dell. I was left using my mobile phone till I finally figured out a fix.

    So it was rush rush to buy a cheap used backup machine. My specification was 17 inch 1080p touch screen with good contrast. I really am addicted to touchscreen and its difficult to use a smaller screen when you were born with 10 thumbs. I vetoed another Dell on the grounds that the same software bug would get both of them. Turned out that left me with not a lot of affordable choices but at £310 the lenovo was in budget.

    Why my daughter bought a 15 inch 4k one, well she and her boyfriend thought it was a good idea at the time.....thinking on it there are more life disrupting ideas they could have had. Count my blessings.
     
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