Intel’s Core-X i9 and i7 series (x299) & Xeon (1P/2P)

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  1. Papusan

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    I trust Deb8uer more than this reviewer. Gaming board and HEDT? You should expect more than this.
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    It wasn't exactly clear the differences between Engineering sample and Retail samples, it would have been nice if he didn't delid the engineering sample without running tests and measurements.

    He blurted out a bunch of stuff about the differences and problems due to those differences between the microcode built into the Engineering sample vs the Retail sample.

    Filling in the details of those differences and their effects and workarounds could be a good video to make, even with both delidded.
     
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    It was der8auer's thermal paste application video I learned how to spread the paste.
     
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    You can't really optimize for power - it's a known fact that Skylake/Kabe Lake, similarly and Polaris, has awful efficiency at higher clockspeeds.
     
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    Intel Core i7-7800X Overclocking, Temps & Power!


    Again, more outrageous heat and thermals from huge power draw when OC'd...

    He sums it up at the end saying that he got 5% better gaming performance from OC'ing, so he doesn't think it's worth the power and heat hassle from OC'ing, it's a waste of time.

    So @Papusan, Intel OC'ing is a bust, not enough Ice in the Hinterlands to tame the beast, and even if you can, it's not giving much of a benefit.

    Ryzen!! Ryzen!! Ryzen!! :)
     
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  6. Papusan

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    See previous post #65
     
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    I can't help but think how ironic it is that Intel has transformed into this generation's Space Heater OEM.
     
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    Maybe NASA will buy them in bulk or they make called Prescott Reloaded.
     
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    I know enthusiasts are not too happy but this is how 100% of manufactured items are engineered. That is you design around the weakest link. If in the designed data the TDP limits power draw to an OC of say 4.3 or 4.3 GHz and its power draw limitations you design the rest of the system to run within those constraints. No where does Intel state the systems are designed to OC to 5.0 GHz each etc..

    I know we all want over design. We want way more than designed for. We essentially want it all! This though is a fact of life, so long as it works within its design limits it is a good design, but I understand the want of better than just good enough but do not say it is bad because it is just good enough just say it is not the best.
     
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    The 10 core i9 is hitting the power and thermal limits without any more effort than a review overclocker, using technique's we all use to gain best performance - I know I would have done the same and more if available to expand performance capabilities.

    The 12-28 core CPU's are going to have a good chance of hitting these limits under stock settings.

    That's the main concern, not the "unusual" high OC on the 10 core CPU.

    Although that does concern me too :)
     
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