Quick description before storytime: Two brand-new retail AW17R4-7345SLV-PUS in unopened packaging. Label reads as follows: Alienware 17 Gaming Laptop Model R4 Silver ----- Display 17.3" Full HD Display ----- Performance Intel Core i7-7700HQ Processor 16GB Memory 1TB Hard Drive NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 + 8GB ----- Software Windows 10 ----- Includes Wireless-AC Bluetooth HDMI USB 3.0 Alienware Sound Center Storytime My M18xR1 had fought the good fight. Bought by my wife in 2011 as an anniversary gift to me (I think she likes me), I swore to never allow myself to ever know how much she spent on it (because I'm a tightwad) and have thus far been successful. It came with the 6990m CF. I never really played any game that had a chance to tax them, as I was a dedicated Diablo II addict, who had only just ordered Diablo 3. It's an old-guy thing, i guess. I started with Diablo, then Diablo II, then Starcraft, then LOD, then BW. I'm a one... scratch that... two-trick pony. Within three years, the primary AMD GPU began to give up the ghost. I knew just enough to understand that it was inevitable, and reluctantly removed it and replaced it with the secondary after the 8-beeps of death routine. I've been chugging along every since on the one card, swatting away the occasional, though obligatory, driver failures. I knew I would have to do something soon, as the onboard Intel GPU struggles horribly with anything beyond web surfing. In the most recent past, I had begun to acknowledge that I must find a replacement. My wife had just purchased the new 13 with the OLED display. It was beautiful. I had been bitten, for sure. Remember the above comment about being a tightwad? I refused to buy myself an AW, in that I mean that I refused to spend anything in the neighborhood of $3k on something I spend my nearly every waking moment on, when indoors (at no point do I point to tightwads having any sense). After a week of ownership, my I.T. Professional spouse who refuses to work on her own computer, decided that she genuinely did not like anything about the 13, especially for the price, and the fact that every time she sat down with it, she had to work on it (driver updates/rollbacks, not retaining user preferences, refusal to play well with the external monitor(s) etc.) and after a brief talk with Dell, the decision was made to send it back. It was at this point I realized I was now shopping for TWO desktop replacement laptops. Today, I came across this pair of 17r4's at my local "tax-free due to my employment" establishments for a price I felt I could not pass up (read: the pair for less than my wife spent on the 13). I was actually there to seriously consider buying a pair of Acer Predator Helios 300's, but saw that "yesterdays price" was a limited time introductory deal that I had JUST missed by a matter of a day or three, and they had gone up $300. I had a brand new charge card account that I had opened that morning for a work-related purchase, and was granted 10%-off any purchase made on the retail side of the house, these two machines were NOT for sale earlier when I came through at lunch time, and the 'store' was about to close in 20 minutes. Panic set in, I knew they would not be there when "came back tomorrow", and there was that whole 10% discount time-clock thing... the pressure was too much, I caved. Now, as I type this on my poor, aged m18x, I am glancing over at the two manilla-colored cardboard cases that shield my eyes from the "what have I done" guilt of having made the purchase. I say that, because before un-boxing them, I sat down to educate myself on what I just bought, and read one horror story after another about Windows 10 Updates, bricked displays, and other tales of alienware-woe. Then I realized that apparently the AW17r4 isn't a single-build nomenclature, but it spans a few years with different internals. I realize now that I actually don't know what I have or how to judge it compared to the stories I've read. I don't know if I made a good buy or not, and I don't know if these are going to be more hassle than they are worth. /Storytime What can the forum members tell me about these two gems? Have I done well by snagging them up? Will they serve me at least as well as my m18x has? Or should I promptly, and apologetically return them in the morning because they, above all things, are un-apologetically DELL? More than anything, I have the fear of having to constantly babysit them, coddling drivers and nursing glitches. I would love for something to simply work as advertised, right out of the box, but I know that's not a reality. What Say Ye? edit: It's late, and I didn't spell check.