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IE 11 for win 7 SP1 has anyone done this upgrade yet?

Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by JOSEA, Nov 9, 2013.

  1. JOSEA

    JOSEA NONE

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  2. tijo

    tijo Sacred Blame Super Moderator

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    I haven't seen reports of bad behavior over at ars, well aside from the IE10/11 issues with NBR.
     
  3. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    One less reason to upgrade to windows 8(.1) i see.
     
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  4. Pirx

    Pirx Notebook Virtuoso

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    I upgraded my IE10 to IE11 this afternoon, in the hope of seeing improved compatibility. Alas, no noticeable differences; all those many, many websites that are broken in IE10 are still broken in IE11. Same crappy Metro scrollbar as in IE10, too, of course. I am moving more and more to Chrome. Not that I have a lot of love for Google, but at least their browser works most of the time, and it does respect Windows 7 interface conventions, and Microsoft's guidelines for same.


    P.S.: I forgot to say, if you're still on IE9, you may want to stay there, at least if you're interested in being able to browse most of the web. Going to IE10, you're going to lose a lot of websites that will no longer work. As jus one example, the editor you use when composing posts on this site was broken a little in IE10; with IE11 it now becomes close to unusable, missing keystrokes constantly. As a demonstration I have sopped correcting those missed keystrokes in tis entenc. Aeome, isn't it?

    P.P.S.: Seriosly, loking at this piece of gabge that Internet Explorer has urned into, aprt from the disaster that is Windows 8.x, I really wonder whathashappened to Microsoft God alighty, how hard can it be to come up with a browser that actually wrks? Sheesh...
     
  5. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    People use IE???

    I always thought IE was for the computer illiterate. And even there, the Chrome Ads on google.com are enough to pursuade a non-techie to switch.

    Last time i used IE was when i got my laptop and i used it to download Firefox.
     
  6. Pirx

    Pirx Notebook Virtuoso

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    You thought wrong.

    People still use FireFox? I thought... Nevermind.
     
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  7. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

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    Over the past five years, there have been times when my browser of choice was Safari, Firefox, Chrome, and IE. Right now IE11 is my browser of choice. I like it a lot. And I'm not the only one.

    IE 9, 10, and 11 are nothing like the bad old days of IE 6.
     
  8. octiceps

    octiceps Notebook Profit

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    I don't know what the crackheads at M$ are doing, but it seems that each new iteration of IE breaks compatibility with more websites. Forums that used to work fine for me back when I was using IE 8 on Windows 7 went haywire when I migrated to IE 10 and Windows 8. All the forum tools, formatting, etc. stopped working properly. Even with Compatibility View, these websites still weren't 100%. It's just a royal pain in the a**.

    Thankfully, I switched my main browser to Firefox long ago, and then again to Chrome a couple years back.

    Which each new release of IE, M$ always touts the improved performance and speed. The running joke about this is that it allows you to download Chrome/Firefox/Opera/*alternative browser of choice* faster. :D
     
  9. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile

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    I have no real issues with missing keystrokes with IE 10 or 11. Then again this is on a pretty strong DTR and on a weaker ULV etc. this may not be the case. it doesn't seem I visit many sites where at least compatibility mode fixes most if not all issues.............
     
  10. Indrek

    Indrek Notebook Virtuoso

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    I haven't had any problems with IE10 here on NBR (or any other sites, for that matter). Can't say about IE11 - haven't bothered trying it on Windows 7 since I'm planning to upgrade to Windows 8.1 in the near future anyway.

    As for compatibility issues, I don't think it's Microsoft that's actively "breaking" websites. The most likely reason is that those websites use IE-specific hacks that were necessary in older versions to work around some bugs or missing features. Now that each version of IE is making big leaps forward in standards compatibility, those hacks become more and more unnecessary, and in some cases can actually result in new bugs if not applied properly to only older versions. It's a tough situation that Microsoft is in - developers are demanding that they improve standards support and users obviously want old websites that aren't standards-compliant to keep working. Compatibility Mode should help with this, but of course there will always be some websites that slip through the cracks.

    I ran a scan on NBR forums at modern.IE and it found a bunch of scripts that seem to be detecting the browser version. I haven't delved into the actual code, but if those checks (which are often based on almost ancient code) haven't been updated to properly account for modern versions of IE, then that may very well be the cause of compatibility issues. Those having such issues may want to alert NBR staff so they can look into updating the code to use modern feature detection techniques.


    On a somewhat related note, can we please stop pretending to be surprised that there are people who actually use IE? It's just as unfunny as using a dollar sign when writing "MS". Or maybe, if you really have been living under a rock and haven't heard that IE6 is no longer the latest version, maybe go and actually try it out for yourself.
     
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  11. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    Yeah I'm primarily an IE user as well. It took some getting used to the UI design change of IE 9 but I have not encountered any issues using it on any of the websites I visit including this one. In fact I'm typing this message using IE 11 on Windows 7.
     
  12. Pirx

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    For me the issues arise not when I compose a post for the first time, but when I go back and edit it. That's when I get massive amounts of missed keystrokes. Oh, and this is on a powerful DTR.
     
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    Rodster Merica

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    I've seen that happen to me with FF and the text on the screen gets bunched together. I always thought it was an incomparably with my laptop GPU.
     
  14. StormJumper

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    Updated my Desktop and Laptop to IE11 and so far no problems looks and acts like IE10 that I had before.....
     
  15. Pirx

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    I played around some more with this, and I was able to resolve some of the website rendering issues by using AdBlock Plus for Internet Explorer instead of the trackng protection lists I had used before. The issue with missed keystrokes when editing posts still persists even after installing the latest drivers for my graphics card. This can be solved by switching to software rendering, but who wants to do that just to fix a problem with an internet forum? NBR seems to be the only one that shows this issue for me.

    P.S.: The situation with that crappy Metro scrollbar can be improved somewhat by customizing it. You can create a custom css file that redefines a few of the colors, and have that used by IE by configuring it in Internet Options->Accessibility, then check "Format documents using my style sheet". An example for the contents of the ccs file is below; you can customize any of these colors to your liking:
    html {
    scrollbar-base-color: #aeaec7;
    scrollbar-arrow-color: black;
    scrollbar-track-color: #e4e4f2;

    scrollbar-shadow-color: black;
    scrollbar-lightshadow-color: black;
    scrollbar-darkshadow-color: gray;

    scrollbar-highlight-color: white;
    scrollbar-3dlight-color: black;
    }
     
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    TreeTops Ranch Notebook Evangelist

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    Not to hijack this thread but I would like to make a comment about IE also. I have found that when buying a ticket on line for a football game, stage plays, music events, etc. ONLY IE will work. It seems that the webmasters for those events seem to code for IE only. Those sites never work with Firefox. Yes, you can get into the sites but when you try to actually purchase a ticket and pick a seat then it will not work in Firefox.
     
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    Before I even consider it I will give it some time and see more posts of how it works with everything. I pretty much live on goggle chrome because Im tired of IE10 crashing or not functioning correctly on Phpbb forums. I can use any other browser and it works. Google Chrome, Firefox, Opera etc.
     
  18. StormJumper

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    That's what I mentioned on another forum site that not all sites are created equal some are coded for IE/FF and some are preferred for IE. So when one uses a browser some sites give more option depending on the site developers and which code they use for both or just for IE. So this is why I have IE/FF together as each site can vary depending on the browser and whom encodes it and for which browsers they prefer not what the people whom use the browser prefer. So it's a give and take on either browser that we have to live with.
     
  19. Mitlov

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    *applause* Thank you!

    EDIT: I have never had missed keystrokes on any forum, including NBR, and I'm using IE11 on a ULV Ivy Bridge i3. Didn't have that issue with IE10 either. What I do sometimes have is, when I first edit a post, certain words appear duplicated (they appear on the end of a line AND the beginning of the next line), but as soon as I put my cursor in the edit window and start typing, this resolves.
     
  20. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile

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    I too have Chrome and Pale Moon but both are rarely used. I know there are others who would rather use just about anything other than IE, myself I can understand it I just don't subscribe to that thought.

    IE for all of its versions has pretty much just worked. I haven't had the major issues some other have. This is not discounting their issues as I am sure they are there. I just have been lucky enough not to have them. I do have the text duplicating issue that disappears too though with the edit window.

    Off topic, since mentioned, I do not use the $ sign in "MS" to be funny but in light of recent issues I can see where some others might be trying to be funny with it. as I've stated I have always used the abbreviation in this manner since the DOS only days and even before the GUI. I doubt I was the first or only back then either. The usage came from the early days when the hobbyists became business men and the unrelenting push from M$ to obliterate any competition back then.

    Back on topic, I would like to see some of these sites where something is broken. Maybe I just skip over it not knowing what I am missing................
     
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