i7 9700k + rtx 2070 laptop or i7 8750h + rtx 2080

Discussion in 'What Notebook Should I Buy?' started by DamLedmor, Mar 31, 2019.

  1. DamLedmor

    DamLedmor Newbie

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    Specifically I'm talking about the P775TM Clevo Chassis sold by Pc-Specialist (Octane VI) with an i7 9700k and a rtx 2070... or a MSI GE75 8SG with the conventional i7 8750 and the powerful rtx 2080.

    Right now I have a MSI GE73 8rf with the i7 8750h and a GTX 1070. The laptop is ok but the processor suffers an unbearable thermal throttling if not undervolted properly.

    So far I've read the ge75 has a great display and I don't know if Pc-Specialist calibrates their screens.

    Also, the ge75 connectivity ports aren't that good. There's no thunderbolt, it only has 1 USB c (Clevo Chassis has 2) and the price I'm getting is almost the same. Also, the Octane VI's components I'm considering are much better than the MSI ones.

    The last one comes with 16gb ram single channel with high latency mediocre soddims and a not so nice nvme SSD. The Octane will have better soddims on dual Channel and a Samsung Evo 970.

    I don't care much about the laptop aesthetics and design, I'm not planning on moving it much from my desk. I'll use it mainly for gaming, web developing and non intensive programming. I look for futureproofnes, build quality and reliablenes.

    Thanks guys, I'd really appreciate to read your thoughts on this.
     
  2. bennyg

    bennyg Notebook Virtuoso

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    Going from the notebookcheck review of the GE75 it looks like looks like it is just as bad on the CPU throttlefest, they didn't do temp testing on the CPU except for 85C on gpu stress (where you don't expect the CPU to get hot...) and the 8750H getting sub 1000 cbr15 after the first run is not great, that indicates firmware limits which is worse than thermal throttling - it is an admission of woeful cooling that you as a user can't do anything about by improving temps.

    The unit they tested also has dual channel... Single channel RAM costs about 20-30% in performance - and why it is offerred seems brain dead from every perspective except knocking a few dollars off the price and using 1 dimm allows them present as a "benefit" the remedy for that brain dead decision... spending your own money post purchase for a 2nd 16gb stick.

    I don't like the battery wedged up between the heatpipes either. Heat degrades battery cells and I don't see any insulation
     
  3. DamLedmor

    DamLedmor Newbie

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    @bennyg You are right. The single channel default configuration is idiotic. Also, the cpu, at least in the GE73 8rf can be undervolted and this helps reducing the throttling considerably but still the cpu temps are around 80°c when gaming. I think these temps are kind of normal considering the chassis size, which is nice.

    Any opinions on the Clevo model?
     
  4. bennyg

    bennyg Notebook Virtuoso

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    It's tried and true, pretty much iterated updates from the original P775 model. It'll win on CPU performance, operating temps, ports, reliability, ease of servicing, and upgradeability
    and lose about 20% on GPU performance (2070 vs 2080) and aesthetics according to most people (portability/weight/"looks"/RGB-ness)

    Heres the owners thread - it starts off for the first ~200 pages about the 2017 Coffee Lake P775TM (the RTX version with 9 series is called the P775TM-R)
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-sager-np9175-clevo-p775tm-owners-lounge.809621/
     
  5. DamLedmor

    DamLedmor Newbie

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    Thanks @bennyg that's the kind of opinion I was looking for. I'm more inclined for the Clevo but the ge75 'pros' you rightly describe are precisely the things that make me doubt. Also itsi a bit cheaper...
     
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