HP Spectre x360

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  1. Vuurzee

    Vuurzee Newbie

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    Curious, as i'm thinking of purchasing the SM951, do you have the NVME or AHCI version?
    NVME: MZVPV512HDGL-00000
    AHCI: MZHPV512HDGL-00000
     
  2. Cakefish

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    So I just got mine today. Absolutely loving it. However, I've just noticed that it has a stuck pixel. It displays white on a black background and is very noticeable. Devastated.

    I bought from the HP Store so I can ask for return, right?
     
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    I definitely would.
     
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    Such a shame because it really is a lovely laptop on first impressions. Gorgeous design! Absolutely blew me away when I first saw (and felt) it.
     
  5. gadgetrants

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    Upgraded to Win 10 a few days ago and thought I'd share a few impressions (I'm on the i7/256/FHD/8GB version):

    (1) Picked up the Samsung EVO 500GB M.2 (SATA) and replaced the stock 256GB -- call me an idiot but I was so pleased to discover this morning that I can throw the LiteOn 256GB into a thumb-drive enclosure OR a 2.5" drive caddy. That's great news. Getting ~500MB/s read and write with the Samsung, by the way.

    (2) Installed Win 10 Enterprise (work license) with no issues. I noticed a few devices weren't initially recognized, but it looks like Windows update fixed that shortly after the install. Another thing that ASTONISHED me: without installing any HP-specific apps or drivers, the x360 worked more or less perfectly.

    One odd observation RE: the touchpad...the driver that initially installed worked fine, but as I think I saw mentioned here, the settings "didn't stick" after each reboot. However, with that version I had a nice 3-finger gesture that toggled between "show desktop" and the new "Task View". After installing the touchpad driver/app from HP, I fixed the first issue and broke the second feature. Oh well.

    (3) I still have NOT INSTALLED the HP-provided audio driver, so I'm running whichever version Windows update gave me. Either way, I am not having the sound issues that some are reporting -- no crackling, hissing, humming, etc.

    UPDATE: since posting, I've noticed a slight pop when I refresh certain web pages -- seems like the sound correlates with a brief spike in CPU usage. It's very slight though.

    (4) This is actually NOT Win 10 specific, but I wanted to note: there's a neat feature in Chrome where you can swipe the touchscreen at the left or right edges for forward/back. I assumed it was a browser-general feature, but it doesn't seem to work in Edge. Very nice feature to use while browsing.

    Finally, a few pages back there was some understandable grumbling about things missing or locked down in Win 10. I have to confess I was a late-adopter of Win 8/8.1, but never hated it the way many others did, so the switch to Win 10 has been pretty smooth for me. My overall impression is that Microsoft has come close to their goal: it's an OS that, with a 2-in-1 like ours, works comfortably in both laptop and tablet modes. I particularly like the option to toggle Tablet Mode at will...it REALLY gives me exactly what I wanted: a laptop experience, plus the ability to work with the device as if it were an Android tablet (I still own and love the original Asus Transformer, running on Lollipop by the way!).

    Another thing that surprises me: I swear that our x360 loads Chrome faster (i.e., around 20+ tabs) than my previous machine, a Samsung laptop with an Ivy Bridge (true) quad-core i7. Yet another nice surprise.

    -Matt
     
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    Received my X360 a couple of weeks ago and I'm thinking of returning it due to fan noise. Some people are suggesting it's driver/windows 10 or even dust related. I've updated drivers, stopped windows services... done everything I can think of resulting in watching task manager like a hawk.

    With a few tabs in my browser open it will start to get warm at the rear-left, eventually the fan will kick in slightly - the fan kicking in slightly is fine. However should anything remotely tax the cpu at around 25% for anything more than a minute or two, or worse still I dare to open an indie game which should be too demanding then the fan quickly spins-up and is an off putting nuisance. I know it's not a gaming machine, but the cpu load issue has me wary of even installing a standalone antivirus.

    How has everyone found the fan noise or heat produced by their Spectre? Would be grateful for some feedback please.
     
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    Hey Cliff, welcome to the owners' club! I mentioned in my last post that I typically have 20-30 tabs open in Chrome...at this particular moment, the CPU is bouncing between 15%-25% but the fan is "off". Temp is about 45C. I've noticed from time to time that if CPU utilization starts to move past 25%, like your machine, mine will also rev the fan. I agree it's annoying -- though in my case it doesn't seem to be a general issue, but rather a specific one tied to a particular tab. For example, I have a favorite deal site (bensbargains.net) that seems to trigger the issue (just refreshed the tab and yep, I can hear the fan starting to whir).

    One way that I think I've kept the problem under control is by installing browser plug-ins like AdBlock and Flashcontrol. (And now that bensbargains.net is done refreshing in the background, I'm back to 15% CPU and 45C again.)

    A loooooonnnng time ago I owned a low-end HP laptop that worked the fan to death. Reading around I gained the impression that "HP implements aggressive cooling policies." I swore I'd never buy another -- obviously the x360 changed my mind, but it still feels like it's inherited a bit of a habit to spin up the fan proactively.

    Anyway, to wrap up: since you mentioned checking the task manager, I suspect you've already pruned your browser tabs carefully and maybe also have plugins like the ones I mentioned. If not, I'd suggest taking a second look. In the end though it may turn out that there are some pages, for example, with heavy Javascript, that are the culprit. For me, as long as I'm able to keep tabs (aha, a pun!) on what each loaded page is doing, it's relatively easy to keep the fan quiet!

    Please check in as your adventure continues!

    -Matt

    PS I wasn't able to confirm whether the i7 5500U has a turbo mode (actually see CORRECTION below), but either way out of habit I normally go into the advanced power settings and drop "Maximum processor state" to 99% which supposedly prevents the CPU from enabling turbo boost. Might also be worth trying.

    EDIT: CORRECTION...I checked the CPU specs on Intel's page and in fact the 5500U can turbo boost to 3GHz, which means the 99% trick might in fact be helpful.
     
  8. CliffW

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    Matt I really appreciate you taking the time out of your day to help. Thank you.

    I hadn't tried AdBlock and FlashControl. I've now added those extensions as a matter of course.

    What was really interesting though, upon going to change the processor state settings I saw the cooling policy was set to 'active'. As soon as I switched this to 'passive' the fan immediately turned off.

    I know this isn't an ideal solution, but given my decision was between the X360 and an Asus UX305 with a core M processor, I'd rather throttle my power down. I even managed to play a game without the fan going crazy.

    Mine is the i5 and it's now at an 8x multiplier (800mhz). I'll have a play around with minimum processor states and the cooling policy. I'd be interested to see what multiplier the system reports if I keep it on an 'active' cooling policy setting. [edit] Changing to active didn't change the multiplier - from reading up I'm learning about how these intel processors work!

    What you say about aggressive cooling makes sense. I wish we could tweak the fan curve. I find it interesting that reviewers didn't pick up on this more. Maybe people complained about throttling and the fan curve was adjusted in later bios revisions. I'm purely speculating.

    Your advice has helped me decide not to sent the laptop back. Thank you.

    I'd still be interested in hearing other people's experiences please.
     
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    Awesome! I'm glad things are moving in a positive direction! I agree it would be nice to hear from others...though strangely this thread has grown quiet in the last few weeks. I wonder if it's because there is a newer model around the corner?

    -Matt
     
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    Where did you go exactly in order to see and change cooling policy?
     
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